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Mortgage Rates Dropping?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am
Talked to my loan agent today and she said they’re being told that rates are going to “significantly drop” July 1st. Anyone else hearing this or know why?
She didn’t say if it was just her bank or a nationwide thing.
She didn’t say if it was just her bank or a nationwide thing.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:35 am to GAFF
Did she already meet her quota for the month and needs to get started early on that July bonus?
Ask her for stock tips too.
Ask her for stock tips too.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:44 am to GAFF
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rates are going to “significantly drop” July 1st.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:51 am to GAFF
The current prime rate is 8.25%, the Federal Reserve just mentioned this week that they see a need for 1 or 2 more small increases this year. Makes me wonder what indicators she has that show a significant decrease in the next 8 days?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:58 am to GAFF
Rates aren’t dropping anytime soon
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:06 pm to bubbz
I’m already using this bank and have a rate locked in with them. This came up in general conversation, not in an attempt to sell me a loan.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:13 pm to GAFF
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July 1st
Of which year?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:34 pm to GAFF
The only remotely plausible explanation would be if it were an agency loan (i.e. fannie/freddie/ginnie)
Mortgage spreads in that context CAN have certain non-financial inputs. e.g. If they have a short-term mandate to bolster affordable housing, they can artificially increase loan spreads to fund that - meaning, when it goes away, it's in theory possible to know the date of the phase out and thus when rates would be coming down. However, I would never expect that effect to be more than 50bps - and also, I would expect this to apply more to commercial agency debt and not resi.
Mortgage spreads in that context CAN have certain non-financial inputs. e.g. If they have a short-term mandate to bolster affordable housing, they can artificially increase loan spreads to fund that - meaning, when it goes away, it's in theory possible to know the date of the phase out and thus when rates would be coming down. However, I would never expect that effect to be more than 50bps - and also, I would expect this to apply more to commercial agency debt and not resi.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:59 pm to Big Scrub TX
She was speaking in context of it concerning conventional residential mortgages. Again, this was not a sales pitch as I’m already her customer. Guess we’ll see what happens July 1st.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 1:02 pm to GAFF
quote:agency or non-agency?
conventional residential mortgages
Posted on 6/23/23 at 1:36 pm to GAFF
As to the question, I haven’t heard/seen any other mention or basis for that statement.
What I do think we will see is more buying down of loans by builders based on the margins they currently have with reduced lumber costs and influx of labor.
What I do think we will see is more buying down of loans by builders based on the margins they currently have with reduced lumber costs and influx of labor.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
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agency or non-agency?
I have no clue.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:18 pm to GAFF
Get her to promise to blow you if they don't drop "significantly" on July 1st. You win either way.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:23 pm to GAFF
quote:
Talked to my loan agent today and she said they’re being told that rates are going to “significantly drop” July 1st. Anyone else hearing this or know why?
No. They aren't dropping.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:08 pm to GAFF
Rates are not changing much by July. Some kind of miscommunication or she is just wrong. Can not think of how any loan officer could believe this.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:40 am to GAFF
You need to talk to someone smarter and in the know. Find another lender to work with
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:04 am to GAFF
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Guess we’ll see what happens July 1st.
There is no guessing.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:30 am to RealDawg
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What I do think we will see is more buying down of loans by builders based on the margins they currently have with reduced lumber costs and influx of labor.
This.
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