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Mortgage Rates Dropping?

Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2710 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am
Talked to my loan agent today and she said they’re being told that rates are going to “significantly drop” July 1st. Anyone else hearing this or know why?

She didn’t say if it was just her bank or a nationwide thing.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4903 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:35 am to
Did she already meet her quota for the month and needs to get started early on that July bonus?

Ask her for stock tips too.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

rates are going to “significantly drop” July 1st.
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
TexLaArk
Member since Jun 2018
934 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:51 am to
The current prime rate is 8.25%, the Federal Reserve just mentioned this week that they see a need for 1 or 2 more small increases this year. Makes me wonder what indicators she has that show a significant decrease in the next 8 days?
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
23087 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:58 am to
Rates aren’t dropping anytime soon
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2710 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:06 pm to
I’m already using this bank and have a rate locked in with them. This came up in general conversation, not in an attempt to sell me a loan.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5577 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

July 1st


Of which year?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:34 pm to
The only remotely plausible explanation would be if it were an agency loan (i.e. fannie/freddie/ginnie)

Mortgage spreads in that context CAN have certain non-financial inputs. e.g. If they have a short-term mandate to bolster affordable housing, they can artificially increase loan spreads to fund that - meaning, when it goes away, it's in theory possible to know the date of the phase out and thus when rates would be coming down. However, I would never expect that effect to be more than 50bps - and also, I would expect this to apply more to commercial agency debt and not resi.

Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2710 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:59 pm to
She was speaking in context of it concerning conventional residential mortgages. Again, this was not a sales pitch as I’m already her customer. Guess we’ll see what happens July 1st.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

conventional residential mortgages
agency or non-agency?
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11207 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 1:36 pm to
As to the question, I haven’t heard/seen any other mention or basis for that statement.

What I do think we will see is more buying down of loans by builders based on the margins they currently have with reduced lumber costs and influx of labor.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2710 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

agency or non-agency?


I have no clue.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57978 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 4:18 pm to
Get her to promise to blow you if they don't drop "significantly" on July 1st. You win either way.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4989 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

Talked to my loan agent today and she said they’re being told that rates are going to “significantly drop” July 1st. Anyone else hearing this or know why?


No. They aren't dropping.
Posted by KennytheTiger
bella vista ar
Member since Apr 2012
469 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:08 pm to
Rates are not changing much by July. Some kind of miscommunication or she is just wrong. Can not think of how any loan officer could believe this.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40253 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

July 1st, 2026.


FIFY
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136272 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:40 am to
You need to talk to someone smarter and in the know. Find another lender to work with
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38423 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:04 am to
quote:

Guess we’ll see what happens July 1st.



There is no guessing.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11076 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 6:30 am to
quote:

What I do think we will see is more buying down of loans by builders based on the margins they currently have with reduced lumber costs and influx of labor.


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