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re: Give me Hurd game 2 in Eauxmaha
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:21 am to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:21 am to LSUAlum2001
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CWS plays bigger than Alex Box so Floyd and Money may be studs in Omaha.
I agree with this. Floyd might be really good in Omaha. He won't give up as many homers, which is how he seems to give up runs usually. Those will be pop outs 75% of the time.
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:22 am to Gallant_Gringo
Yes
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:24 am to bloupe2
quote:Second game in Omaha, win or lose, we just have to start Hurd. He is rested, he is ready, he has better stuff. Floyd just did not inspire any confidence at all yesterday.
Hurd has much better breaking stuff than Floyd. Almost seems like Floyd gets in trouble every single inning
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:26 am to Dizz
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With that said I have no idea how Floyd matches up with Wake and if Wake will sit their ace until game 2.
A whole lot still to be determined, but if Wake and LSU advance, I don't think it'll be Skenes v. Lowder.
Wake's #2 & #3 are both lefties, so prepare for the melts if it's Floyd v. Hartle.
Josh Hartle LHP 11-2, 2.80 ERA, 131 Ks, 20 BBs, .240 BAA.
Sean Sullivan LHP 5-3, 2.64 ERA, 108 Ks, 18 BBs, .170 BAA.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:26 am to geauxcoco
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After those three dingers yesterday, I’d be fine with Hurd.
After those three dingers, I'd be fine with Floyd. Two of them looked like pop ups that kept drifting. Omaha plays bigger, they wouldn't have been out of there.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:26 am to tzimme4
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Ty Floyd hasn't lost a game this season
Floyd’s last two starts lasted 3ip & the pitcher who immediately relieved him both times out-pitched him in each game.
Kinda crazy they wouldn’t think about going with Hurd
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:27 am to Gallant_Gringo
I agree!! Ty is done!
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:29 am to Lester Earl
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Floyd’s last two starts lasted 3ip
Trying to slip this in as if people forgot one of his last 2 starts was delayed for 3 hours.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 10:31 am
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:29 am to Lester Earl
quote:I agree. Hurd has been more effective, and more efficient. A hot Hurd allows you to possibly go into game 3 with all kinds of arms ready to go. You start Floyd there is an almost 100 percent chance you go into game 3 out Skenes, Floyd, Hurd, Cooper and whoever relieves Skenes game 1. You go Hurd in game 2, there is a chance we have Floyd for a high scoring game 3.
Kinda crazy they wouldn’t think about going with Hurd
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:32 am to 3rdPart Tiger
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Trying to slip this in as if people will forget one of his last 2 starts was delayed for 3 hours.
He was already up to 70 pitches.
He’s thrown 153 pitches over his last 6.1.
It’s never comfortable with him.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:34 am to Gallant_Gringo
Disagree
Floyd did not pitch well yesterday. But he's been your number 2 starter virtually all season because he has been your most consistent starter (behind Skenes) on a staff where there has been almost on consistency. And while yesterday wasn't good, Floyd's previous starts haven't been "bad". I could be wrong, but I think the combination of heat/sweat didn't allow him to grip his breaking ball well. Once the first one clearly slipped out of his hand and he followed it up with a FB that got hit a mile his confidence was shaken for the rest of the game, as he didn't fully trust he could locate the breaking pitch.
Hurd has better "stuff". And over the last few weeks (Georgia, South Carolina, OSU) he's been "on". But those three outings have been the exception over the course of the season. Not the rule. Maybe he is locked in and ready to dominate. But it is equally as likely these last three outings have been a (good) outlier and he will regress back to the mean where he has been inconsistent most of the year.
Outside of Skenes, LSU doesn't have a "sure thing". Given the above, I'm still sending Floyd out in game. Over the course of 60+ games that is the formula that got you here. I'm not going to let one "bad" outing (if you can call 3 runs in 3.0 IP "bad") change the data gained over the course of the season in the biggest games of the season.
Floyd did not pitch well yesterday. But he's been your number 2 starter virtually all season because he has been your most consistent starter (behind Skenes) on a staff where there has been almost on consistency. And while yesterday wasn't good, Floyd's previous starts haven't been "bad". I could be wrong, but I think the combination of heat/sweat didn't allow him to grip his breaking ball well. Once the first one clearly slipped out of his hand and he followed it up with a FB that got hit a mile his confidence was shaken for the rest of the game, as he didn't fully trust he could locate the breaking pitch.
Hurd has better "stuff". And over the last few weeks (Georgia, South Carolina, OSU) he's been "on". But those three outings have been the exception over the course of the season. Not the rule. Maybe he is locked in and ready to dominate. But it is equally as likely these last three outings have been a (good) outlier and he will regress back to the mean where he has been inconsistent most of the year.
Outside of Skenes, LSU doesn't have a "sure thing". Given the above, I'm still sending Floyd out in game. Over the course of 60+ games that is the formula that got you here. I'm not going to let one "bad" outing (if you can call 3 runs in 3.0 IP "bad") change the data gained over the course of the season in the biggest games of the season.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:35 am to geauxcoco
You can’t go wrong with either. But Floyd should do well in that ballpark plenty of room there’s been a lot of cheap homers Floyd has given up that would be fly ball outs in Omaha
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:35 am to CatfishJohn
This could be optimistic but I want to see what the boys can do against Lowder. He’s given up about as many HRs in the tourney as he did in the reg season and he hasn’t seen hitters like we have. It may take one time thru the lineup but they’ll adjust and give him the toughest at bats he’s seen.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:36 am to tzimme4
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Ty Floyd hasn't lost a game this season
Because our offense has bailed him out of several losses. I like Floyd when he’s on but when he’s not it’s really, really bad and he gets in trouble every single inning
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:38 am to Lester Earl
quote:He gets into the 70s as fast as lightning. He is not a pitch to contact guy that the people here are making him out to be, framing it that he would be effective in Omaha. He will make mistakes, and they may not be HRs, buy some will be and others will be XBH. I am a huge Floyd supporter, but now is the time to ride Skenes and Hurd to the championship.
He was already up to 70 pitches.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:40 am to 3rdPart Tiger
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Josh Hartle LHP 11-2, 2.80 ERA, 131 Ks, 20 BBs, .240 BAA.
Sean Sullivan LHP 5-3, 2.64 ERA, 108 Ks, 18 BBs, .170 BAA.
What a treat for Wake to have such solid #2 and #3 guys.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:43 am to tigerfoot
If we win game 1, go with Floyd/Hurd in game 2 assuming Floyd hasn't spotted the opponent a lead.
As someone else mentioned, going 2-0 is absolutely massive.
As someone else mentioned, going 2-0 is absolutely massive.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:45 am to tigerfoot
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He gets into the 70s as fast as lightning.
last two starts
6.1 ip
15 baserunners
4HR allowed
It's crazy he was able to limit the damage to only 4ER with the amount of base runners he let on. People act like pitching out of his own jams is good, and that is just a process that is going to eventually put you in a bad spot in Omaha
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:52 am to Lester Earl
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Floyd’s last two starts lasted 3ip
One was a rain delay
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the pitcher who immediately relieved him both times out-pitched him in each game.
Versus OSU
Floyd 3IP, 1 run
Hurd 5IP, 4 runs
Strikeouts do not equate "out pitched"
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:58 am to notbilly
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Versus OSU
Floyd 3IP, 1 run
Hurd 5IP, 4 runs
Strikeouts do not equate "out pitched"
you dont think Hurd pitched better than Floyd vs OSU?
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