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re: Is tennis the most unforgiving sport if you're 3rd or 4th best?
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:24 pm to tigerfan4120
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:24 pm to tigerfan4120
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I've not been the biggest Stefanos Tsitsipas but I literally felt bad for him on a personal level watching him play Alcaraz and realizing that he'll never win major tournaments as long as this guy who is 5 years younger than him is playing the sport. That has to be a bitter pill to swallow. You are one of the best 10 in the world, but won't reach the summit almost no matter what you do.
Except that Alcaraz already breaks down physically at only 20 years old and will miss several majors due to injury so when Novak is done other guys will have an opportunity.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:28 pm to BayouTigers4Life
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There's hundreds of players on the ITF tour just hoping to get into the ATP Top 100.
But think about all the poon that comes with the territory
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:38 pm to BayouTigers4Life
Yeah. Those ITF guys seem to have it rough. Especially the ones that are 25+ and still just trying to make it to the Challenger level. Seems like the spot where players start to have it a lot easier is once they get to the Top 150 and can usually get direct entries to Challenger tournaments. Otherwise, every single week or so, you have to win 2 matches just to make it into the main tournament.
Every once in a while you might hit the lotto and get a wildcard and a big payday in an ATP event.
Every once in a while you might hit the lotto and get a wildcard and a big payday in an ATP event.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:39 pm to emanresu
Poon????? Ok that’s what these guys are trying to achieve.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:46 pm to Thundercles
Women is just like the men.
Since 1968 (Open Era) to present...6 players have won something like 75% of the Wimbledon titles.
Since 1968 (Open Era) to present...6 players have won something like 75% of the Wimbledon titles.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 8:09 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I think this was the golden age of tennis…if just one of Fed, Nadal, or Joker wasn’t around…one of them would probably have 35+ majors. As it is now they all have 20+.
Posted on 6/11/23 at 8:25 pm to bgbam07
5 sets leaves not much room for variance.
Hence the cream more often rises to the top.
This is different than something like women's basketball in the 90s and 2000s where one or two teams monopolizes the limited elite talent available. There is still variance but the worst UCONN or Tennessee could play was better than the best anyone else could muster.
Hence the cream more often rises to the top.
This is different than something like women's basketball in the 90s and 2000s where one or two teams monopolizes the limited elite talent available. There is still variance but the worst UCONN or Tennessee could play was better than the best anyone else could muster.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 7:53 am to Thundercles
Ah a lot has to do with seeding now. 32 seeds at the majors. I wish they would go back to just 16 seeds. You saw a lot more upsets when that happened. A top player could catch someone in a 1st or second round match that could take them out if they weren't in a groove yet.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 7:54 am
Posted on 6/12/23 at 8:01 am to bgbam07
If you go back to '03, it is naturally stacked with Fed, Nadal, and Djokovic. If you got back to '83 on all of the majors there is alot more variance. You just had 3 guys so dominant.
I also think the surface plays a huge part. Wimbledon plays like a hard court now and clay used to be just for specialists. Now, everyone is a baseliner. I really wish Wimbledon would go back to the fast courts where serve and volleying could be employed more effectively.
I have a friend whose son in on the tour in doubles. Made it as high as about 50. Makes absolutely nothing, and can barely afford to travel.
I also think the surface plays a huge part. Wimbledon plays like a hard court now and clay used to be just for specialists. Now, everyone is a baseliner. I really wish Wimbledon would go back to the fast courts where serve and volleying could be employed more effectively.
I have a friend whose son in on the tour in doubles. Made it as high as about 50. Makes absolutely nothing, and can barely afford to travel.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 8:11 am to Thundercles
Women’s collegiate swimming is pretty unforgiving if you don’t have a dick.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 8:23 am to Thundercles
There was basically an entire lost generation of tennis - players born in the 90s.
F1 has a similar problem due to the importance of money, engineering and construction. The sport attracted a lot of new fans and media interest during the excitement of the changing of the guards from Hamilton to Verstappen. But that was a rare exception - it's the least competitive sport. One team dominates and everybody else is just along for the paycheck and creating the illusion that there's a "race".
Posted on 6/12/23 at 8:46 am to AUFANATL
I tried to get into F1 but it's a joke, I have no idea how it is so popular.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:15 am to Thundercles
I would also submit to you Olympic Gymnastics.
4th best gets nothing.
4th best gets nothing.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:16 am to RandySavage
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I tried to get into F1 but it's a joke, I have no idea how it is so popular.
I've heard a few friends say it's more than just a race. Sure a lot like the racing, but some are just big fans of a particular driver, some only follow their countrymen, some are huge fans of teams like Ferrari or McLaren, some are huge auto buffs who follow it for the technology of the cars.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:25 am to KamaCausey_LSU
Perfect example: Yosuke Watanuki.
He is playing in Stuttgart right now.
25 years old
Current ranking 121
Lifetime earnings 595k
Averages about 80k a year.
His brother is his coach. No trainer. Most likely has to pay for all of his travel.
Does has sponsorships with Babolat and Asics.
But he doesn't make enough to afford a real coach, a trainer, and all of things that could get him an advantage.
And he was world number 2 as a junior. Just a brutal sport.
He is playing in Stuttgart right now.
25 years old
Current ranking 121
Lifetime earnings 595k
Averages about 80k a year.
His brother is his coach. No trainer. Most likely has to pay for all of his travel.
Does has sponsorships with Babolat and Asics.
But he doesn't make enough to afford a real coach, a trainer, and all of things that could get him an advantage.
And he was world number 2 as a junior. Just a brutal sport.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 3:41 pm to BayouTigers4Life
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some are huge auto buffs who follow it for the technology of the cars.
This I guess makes the most sense but still seems like that would get old after the first couple of races each new season. Like others have said most years it's not even an actual competition once the races start.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 4:21 pm to RandySavage
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This I guess makes the most sense but still seems like that would get old after the first couple of races each new season
I think the teams continue making "improvements" throughout the season to the point where they everyone is breaking some rule or borderline cheating and the FIA pushes back. Also I think NASCAR has these 'conflicts' and drama between drivers and which F1 does not. I do admit I dont follow any form of racing and my knowledge is limited.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 7:05 pm to Boss
That’s what I was wondering.
A journeyman type career in the NBA or MLB can make someone very wealthy. He’ll look at Chase Daniel, he has made $36 million.
But in tennis, how many guys actually become rich?
A journeyman type career in the NBA or MLB can make someone very wealthy. He’ll look at Chase Daniel, he has made $36 million.
But in tennis, how many guys actually become rich?
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 7:55 pm to GeauxTigers123
Found this from a site not sure how accurate it is.
So you can make a living but you're not becoming wealthy by any means without being at the top.
So you can make a living but you're not becoming wealthy by any means without being at the top.
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