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re: The Ukrainian Counter Offensive
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:21 pm to omegaman66
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:21 pm to omegaman66
quote:
Amazing how people cheer on JFK over the Cuban missile crisis, yet don't see how Russia and NATO is the exact same thing.
It isn’t the exact same thing. Not at all.
Russia was bringing nukes into Cuba. No one is bringing nukes into Ukraine.
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:26 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Lovely.
Your belief that the United States could even legitimately enter into any type of agreement with Russia or the Soviet Union that prevents sovereign, third-party nations from exercising their own foreign policy is just hilarious.
Really. That is just precious.
Speak to our overthrow of one of the only democratically elected governments in the history of the Ukrainian region
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:28 pm to omegaman66
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Good googley moogley the insanity in this thread is beyond belief.
I just want to know why we don’t have the daily body count ticker like we did during Covid at the bottom of every MSM channel. If we could show everyone how the Ukrainians are kicking Russia’s arse, everyone would want to Slava like me.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:29 pm to TigerDeacon
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I don't get the "poor pitiful Russia was lied to" reasoning.
Exactly, you are dense. Can't understand that the USA felt threatened by Russia in Cuba and we almost went to war over it. And now NATO next door to Russia makes them feel threatened just like we did.
I know, I know it is a very hard concept to grasp.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:30 pm to doubleb
quote:No. No.
Did the US sign ...
We signed nothing.
Does that warm your cockles?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:33 pm to doubleb
quote:You're joking, right?
No one is bringing nukes into Ukraine.
You are just feigning stupidity behind the facade of a messageboard personna, right?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Really. That is just precious. Speak to our overthrow of one of the only democratically elected governments in the history of the Ukrainian region
The president who was a Russian puppet fell out of favor when he shifted the govt. towards Russia whom the majority hated. The protesters threw him out.
Russia spent billions in Ukraine to gain favor as did we. Thankfully, our side won out.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:37 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
No one is bringing nukes into Ukraine.You're joking, right? You are just feigning stupidity behind the facade of a messageboard personna, righ
No
No one is bringing nukes into Ukraine.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:38 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
No. No. We signed nothing. Does that warm your cockles?
I can always tell when you are losing the debate, you start calling me names.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:00 pm to NC_Tigah
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In the days of Reagan, the US fell victim to the USSR, Red China, and other communist nations duplicitously breaching agreements. For the past 30yrs that equation has reversed.
If you don’t believe in god, if you believe this life is all you have, that there’s no afterlife, and if you don’t believe in the concept of a soul, then lying isn’t a big deal.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:05 pm to NC_Tigah
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Speak to our overthrow of one of the only democratically elected governments in the history of the Ukrainian region
We’ve gone around that carousel before. East and West have fricked around in Ukraine since time immemorial. Acting like the CIA’s frickery in 2014 is what “started” this ordeal is just retarded, and ignores everything that came before or after.
But as we all know, you believe that Russia’s public statements justifying its invasion accurately represent Russia’s actual motivation. (why you do so, given that Russia is one of the historical GOATs at messaging and misdirection is beyond me) I don’t. It’s a fundamental disagreement that prevents any productive discussion, to be frank.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:06 pm to doubleb
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The president who was a Russian puppet fell out of favor when he shifted the govt. towards Russia whom the majority hated. The protesters threw him out.
Yanukovych wasn’t pro Russian, he played both sides for the best deal. Thats probably why the Russians didn’t save him, they were annoyed with his behavior.
Maidan didn’t represent the majority, for what it’s worth. They were an aggressive minority. But that’s all you need.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:06 pm to omegaman66
quote:
And now NATO next door to Russia makes them feel threatened just like we did.
Where’d you hear that? A politician’s public address to his own people?
Russia suddenly became threatened by NATO in 2022? Because they took the 2004 expansion on the chin without invading anyone at all. So what NATO expansion was it that caused Russia to suddenly feel so super threatened that they had to invade Ukraine?
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:18 pm to Lima Whiskey
Ukraine should invoke the Hatch Act. It’ll help put them over the top.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:05 pm to doubleb
quote:NATO would bring nuclear equivanancy to Ukraine. You're either an idiot, or you play one on this messageboard.
No one is bringing nukes into Ukraine.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:09 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Not suddenly. Russia has been VERY straightforward about the threat of NATO in Georgia or Ukraine for 15yrs.
Russia suddenly became threatened by NATO in 2022?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:11 pm to doubleb
quote:You are referring to the DEMOCRATICALLY elected President of Ukraine? The one we overthrew in a coup.
The president who was a Russian puppet
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:13 pm to doubleb
quote:
Thankfully, our side won out.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:14 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
You're either an idiot, or you play one on this messageboard.
You're the idiot that thinks Putin invaded a sovereign country because NATO.
Bless your heart.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:20 pm to doubleb
quote:"Cockles" is a reference to your heart (heart valves)quote:I can always tell when you are losing the debate, you start calling me names.
No. No. We signed nothing. Does that warm your cockles?
You thought "cockles" was "calling you names"?
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