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re: Trump declass'd everything why does the DOJ and media keep saying the docs are classified?

Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:22 pm to
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he wouldn’t be in trouble now.


That’s adorable
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:23 pm to
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Documents in his possession - mean unclassified


This is false.



Explain how this is false please.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:23 pm to
18 US 793(e) doesn’t reference classification. So that isn’t at issue.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
293 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:23 pm to
“ Cite the statute”

You do the same inversely

Again their is no precedent here other Biden going after his rival

Clinton Bush and Obama have all the done the same

This could have easily been worked out in a civil manner (civil court for that matter)

But Biden and Dems chose to go nuclear

Dems are so stupid they just opened Pandora’s box and on the whole everyone knows how much more corruption is in the Dems ranks ….there will be a reckoning
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:24 pm to
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It doesn’t actually matter much if he declassified them or not, since he’s primarily in trouble for taking and refusing to return documents,
particularly sensitive documents that cannot be accessed unless in a secure containment facility, even by sitting presidents.



Why does it matter if they are declassified?
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:24 pm to
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For the millionth time, WTF does crossfire hurricane have to do with the documents at issue?




And that's where it gets problematic.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:25 pm to
It’s false if he doesn’t declassify but he says he did, which is all that’s required under the PRA.

But let’s not get lured into thinking an outgoing potus shouldn’t have classified papers. They all do, which is why the FBI facilitates this exchange with NARA.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:25 pm to
Trump literally said “As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t.”

That's why he's fricked
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31615 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:25 pm to
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That said, there is literally a quote in the indictment from a Trump recording saying that he could have declassified documents but he didn’t.


They keep fricking ignoring this.



It does not matter. They are declassified. End of story period.
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
293 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:26 pm to
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It doesn’t actually matter much if he declassified them or not, since he’s primarily in trouble for taking and refusing to return documents,
particularly sensitive documents that cannot be accessed unless in a secure containment facility, even by sitting presidents.


That’s a civil matter not a criminal one
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:27 pm to
What he is charged with, classification is completely irrelevant.

18 US 793(e)
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:27 pm to
Well if it IS crossfire docs, he loudly and publicly declassified those in writing back in 2019.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:27 pm to
Ron bots coming out of the woodwork
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31615 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:28 pm to
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Trump literally said “As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t.”

That's why he's fricked




They are declassified by being in his possession regardless of what he said.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116954 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:28 pm to
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It does not matter. They are declassified.


Trump allegedly said that they were not declassified and he knew it.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:29 pm to
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You do the same inversely


Ok. Allegedly, trump is on tape admitting to not declassifying material and then showing them to his friends and a guy writing a book for him.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64968 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:30 pm to
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They are declassified by being in his possession regardless of what he said.


False.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9820 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:30 pm to
So kinda like how he allegedly colluded with Russia in 16
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6709 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:31 pm to
Some major hilarious cope going on today among the Trumptards.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31615 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:31 pm to
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What he is charged with, classification is completely irrelevant.


But it is though. He was the president. The only motherfricker that that statute doesn't apply to.
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