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Let's talk Ukraine. Was there a Coup in 2014?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:02 pm
Were we involved in that?
Just a general conversation.
Just a general conversation.
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:06 pm to Flanders Fields
I'm asking for opinions.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:16 pm to Jjdoc
We’re involved in every country one way or another. There was a probably a good amount of soft support for the upheaval during Euromaidan
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:16 pm to Jjdoc
Yes led by Barry Soetoro
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:17 pm to Jjdoc
Yes. No one with even the slightest bit of objectivity would disagree. Your boy Obama helped orchestrate it.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:17 pm to Jjdoc
I wish trump would have never approved the sell of weapons to Ukraine. Hindsight is 20/20 but this was 40 million dollars in lethal war weapons we sold to Ukraine
Didn't he approve 400 million in aid for their military as well?
LINK
Didn't he approve 400 million in aid for their military as well?
LINK
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:18 pm to Jjdoc
quote:You're asking for opinions about indisputable fact? Why?
I'm asking for opinions.
There is no debate as to whether the Euromaidan was a coup.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:20 pm to rmnldr
quote:
We’re involved in every country one way or another. There was a probably a good amount of soft support for the upheaval during Euromaidan
Why?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:20 pm to Little Trump
quote:
Yes led by Barry Soetoro
Ok... But why?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:22 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
You're asking for opinions about indisputable fact? Why?
I have seen varying opinions. But "Why?" is my next question.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:23 pm to Jjdoc
Why do you think Obama would install a new leader in Ukraine?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:24 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance
Why?
Why was there the false flag gulf of Tonkin?
Why did Bush say Iraq had WMD?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:27 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:28 pm to Jjdoc
They call it a "revolution" but it was a "coup".
Previous Ukrainian president was fairly elected. The Western Ukros were pissed Eastern Ukrainian leaning president got elected and staged an actual coup.
Few instigators were shot via false flag which sparked the unrest/coup.
Russia got involved to secure it's assets in Crimea(military base) and other investments.
Oil reserves, lithium reserves, and ability to fck with Russia on their border. Also war in Ukraine is great for MIC business.
Lots and lots of good establishment reasons.
Then it was a proxy warfare since.
Previous Ukrainian president was fairly elected. The Western Ukros were pissed Eastern Ukrainian leaning president got elected and staged an actual coup.
Few instigators were shot via false flag which sparked the unrest/coup.
Russia got involved to secure it's assets in Crimea(military base) and other investments.
quote:
Ok... But why?
Oil reserves, lithium reserves, and ability to fck with Russia on their border. Also war in Ukraine is great for MIC business.
Lots and lots of good establishment reasons.
Then it was a proxy warfare since.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:29 pm to Jjdoc
I’m not sure we would sleep at night if we knew the true depravity of the United States government.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:29 pm to Jjdoc
quote:You've seen various opinions as to whether the coup was a coup?
I have seen varying opinions.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:31 pm to Little Trump
I thought it was because they had a puppet russian Gov.
At least that's what I'm told. Is that true? Not true?
At least that's what I'm told. Is that true? Not true?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:32 pm to Little Trump
quote:
Why do you think Obama would install a new leader in Ukraine?
One option: installing a new leader in Ukraine meant that our rich and powerful string pullers would lose a lot of money.
I think we can rule that one out, so what's left?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:34 pm to NC_Tigah
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You've seen various opinions as to whether the coup was a coup?
Yep! "It was not a COUP" and that "The USA needs to support them" with $$ etc.
I'm just trying to make sense of how it all happened.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:40 pm to Jjdoc
There was a coup in 2014 and before that. The coup was done by Russia though to try and get Ukraine to have closer ties with the Kremlin.
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