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re: Ronbots and Dems completely discount the seditious conspiracy against Donald

Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:17 am to
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:17 am to
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Counter point: *shoves fingers in ears “LALAALALALALALALALLALALALALALA”



For God's sake they appointed a special counsel against him for firing someone at FBI the DOJ told him to fire

Where's this fantasy land you speak of where dictator Trump could have cleaned house at the DOJ, FBI, CIA, bureaucratic state etc.


There is no question Trump was screwed and there is no question the Deep State is aligned and as powerful as ever.

The problem is your assumption is that no one could do better than Trump to fight it. That's simply false. Trump did many, many things that made it nearly impossible for him to be effective in fighting the Deep State. If you are going up against them you better have a plan and be disciplined because they sure as hell do. Instead he played constant defense. It's a primary difference between Trump and DeSantis. More specifically:

1. Bad appointments. Trump was dogshit at vetting his people he would appoint and often just appointed people that said nice things to him. Most of those folks turned on him. He simply didn't have a bench to pull from and was Lucy with the football over and over.

2. Leaks like crazy. Trump's Admin was a sieve. They were constantly fighting internal battles because they had so many people that were fighting with each other and leaking to the press. BTW, Trump was the worst about this himself as he got played over and over by Maggie Halberman at the NYT.

3. Have really good lawyers and have them watch over everything you are doing. Trump kept exposing himself and his team legally because he didn't plan accordingly and he let folks like Flynn meet with the FBI without an attorney.

4. Build up credibility capital with the People. Trump lied a lot and he acted like an arse even more. Thus when he was actually being screwed over a lot of people had no sympathy for him. That wasn't me or most of the folks on this site but this isn't reflective of the real world. He needed some level of credibility and trust with those who disagreed with him and he had almost none.

5. Terrible communication. Trump stepped on his dick constantly and was always reactive. He also would keep going on pre recorded interviews with people that hated him and let them slice and dice his words. Then he invites Bob Freaking Woodward into the WH for basically unrestricted access for months on end. Just a cluster.

6. Firing people on a whim and then denigrating them. Trump burned so many bridges and pissed on them after it was hard to count. He made it so that no one wanted to work for him and very few want to now because they know there is a very strong chance he will fire you, piss on you, and leave you with no career left unless you want to basically become a Democrat shill.

It pisses me off what happened to Trump and I want the Swamp and Media to pay but Trump just can't do it. He's less disciplined than ever and now he's gotten old. He barely even leaves MAL and he has very few friends left that are competent. You need an army of competent people to defeat the Swamp. He also has blacklisted every DeSantis supporter which is doubly stupid considering DeSantis has volumes of smart and talented folks supporting him and he is particularly appealing to the intellectual conservatives. Who is Trump going to appoint to run things? MTG and Gaetz?
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6102 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:19 am to
He gets caught trying to change the vote in georgia.

He got caught saying he likes to grab women by the pussy.

Classified documents were found at his house.

Trump and his boy Rudy had a big hand kicking the insurrection off then he watched cops being beat and maced for 4 hours before calling them off.



This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 11:25 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72916 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:23 am to
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Browse through few recent threads on RON.

Meatball fans completely went with Dwmocrats' talking point the election was fair.



yup

zero shame
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9679 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:48 pm to
Sad really
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9679 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:10 pm to
Did you listen to the whole call or are you just parroting what msnbc told you?
Posted by Troutforbreakfast
Member since Mar 2023
138 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:18 pm to
Because the left are evil in manner and actions, vacuum minded miscreants, hell bent on upturning the cart of the republic.

They want to burn it all down and become one muddled mess of equal nothingness’s.
Posted by yimbo
Member since Nov 2022
404 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:21 pm to
Tin foil
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:35 pm to
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They want to burn it all down and become one muddled mess of equal nothingness’s.


link "they" saying that. paste examples of quotes.

my friends are 60% liberal and 30% green lib. no one is looking for burning it down. or your muddled mess of nothing.


Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46283 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:39 pm to
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I will probably support Desantis. My view is that Trump is a terrible President because he surrounds himself exclusively with bootlickers; he is constantly in attack mode, which alienates too many people; and he and his family are influence sellers like the Bidens. The best case outcome if we nominate Trump is that he squeaks out another Electoral victory, while losing the popular vote by 5 to 10 million. Then he goes on to historic losses in the midterms, followed by Democrats winning the 2028 Presidential election and running all lawmaking branches of the Federal Government. And what would his two years of governing - probably with a mixed congress - get us? Excessive spending. Big deal!


This ^^^ post confirms my suspicion about PinHead.....he/she is a more Groomer than conservative and the level of mental fragility is substantial.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12161 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:50 pm to
Because they are progatain RINO's disguised as Republicans. They don't care about freedom or fairness.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17993 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Because they are progatain RINO's disguised as Republicans. They don't care about freedom or fairness.

So it can't be that many of them, former Trump voters, based on Trump's successes/failures in his first term, have an opinion that DeSantis would be more effective at addressing issues like the border, politicization of FBI/DOJ, and wildly out of control spending than Trump?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30108 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:12 pm to
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trump gets caught asking election officials to look into documented voter fraud and see to it that no fraudulent ballots gets counted with the legitimate votes in georgia.

trump got caught saying that women willingly let rich and powerful men grab women by the pussy. (its a proven and admitted to fact by the way)

trump had empty folders that were marked as Classified documents, but were no longer classified documents nor were the contents that were once in those folders, because trump declassified them before he left office. those are what were found at his house.


corrected for accuracy to remove the TDS

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Trump and his boy Rudy had a big hand kicking the insurrection off then he watched cops being beat and maced for 4 hours before calling them off.



fun fact - it has been documented as fact that no officers were beaten or maced by the crowds on jan 6, the cops who were treated for mace were maced by other cops shooting mace into the wind and it blew back on them so it was cops macing other cops.

now please explain how, a full hour before anyone ever went near the capital grounds, trump said they should protest peacefully and respectfully and dont break any laws, how explain how trump saying that, was him having a big hand kicking the insurrection off

we would all love to hear this explained

hint - you wont be able to find it on DU like you copy pasted this BS from that you posted
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 7:57 pm
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9679 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:28 pm to
Thank you
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6102 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:22 pm to
There's proof of everything i said and y'all still deny it.

Yes i listened the whole hour and i thank god Raffensberger has a fricking spine. A lot of republicans would of done whatever he said.

Just think if y'all caught Biden red handed like that lol i can only imagine.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 8:30 pm
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