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re: Shams: Pels Don't Think Zion Even Close to Coming Back
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:59 pm to LSUpelsSaints
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:59 pm to LSUpelsSaints
I don’t know how long I can force myself to support a franchise that doesn’t even support itself
Genuinely considered not even going to the play-in game
Genuinely considered not even going to the play-in game
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Posted on 4/10/23 at 5:01 pm to moneyg
You can’t get into basketball shape without playing basketball…. Let him play. A slow Zion is still better than most second units
Posted on 4/10/23 at 5:36 pm to M3From225
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Let him play.
he does not feel he's himself. only when he feels himself will he play 5 v 5.
he does not meet the physical metrics.
those are from the last presser.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 7:08 pm to CelticDog
In normal terms- his arse is too fat too play.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 7:20 pm to CelticDog
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he does not feel he's himself. only when he feels himself will he play 5 v 5.
You left our part of it. AFTER he meets metrics and feels ok.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:10 pm to LSUpelsSaints
Just really sad honestly. This kid has the world by the balls but he’s clearly got his priorities all fricked up. Basketball seems to come around the middle of the road as far as what’s important to him. He supposedly had a private chef making lean protein meals for him everyday and was supposedly dedicated to working on his body in the gym and the court but none of it has shown to be true. I’m still hoping he wakes up and realizes he’s throwing his career away and makes the changes needed but I am losing hope he ever will. Some guys just never mature after they get paid. Zion is more about Japanese cartoons than he is basketball.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:43 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
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You talk to him last week?
He said a year or so back that if you (he) drops too much weight you feel less powerful. He’s a power player. 2+2=4
Posted on 4/10/23 at 9:56 pm to shel311
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I'd just like to give him and this group 1 more shot before I chalk it up to a lost cause.
Maybe I’m an idiot and a glutton for punishment, but this is where I am as well.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:00 pm to The_Duke
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Conditioning being the reason is all signs of a over protective training staff. Stars comes back all the time from month longer injuries and play their way back into shape. No reason our staff to be this cautious if he isn't injured anymore
Most idiotic take in this whole thread
Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:10 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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He’s a power player
Z will have to diversify his game. He ain't going to avoid injuries by being a bull in a china shop. When he played, he was routinely trying to smash through a wall of 3 or 4 opponents. That's just asking for an injury. So this year it was his hammy. Next year ...?
Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:14 pm to Chad504boy
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Anyone still wanna fight me about Zion has a maturity issue a year or so ago...
I was calling for his trade after he got injured and left the Covid bubble. frick him. Y'all keep getting your hopes up on that fat frick, it's on you now.
News flash... You're REALLY gonna be happy when he get hurts next year.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:15 pm to LSUPilot07
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He supposedly had a private chef making lean protein meals for him everyday and was supposedly dedicated to working on his body in the gym and the court but none of it has shown to be true.
Uhhhhh, did you see the difference in how he looked coming into the season?
Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:19 pm to LSUgrad88
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I'd just like to give him and this group 1 more shot before I chalk it up to a lost cause.
Maybe I’m an idiot and a glutton for punishment, but this is where I am as well.
Not an idiot - it’s the only realistic option. Zion is going to be on the roster next year. When healthy, he might be the next offensive player in the league and makes the Pels a title contender.
What else can you do but hope it works out next year? I wouldn’t bet on it financially or emotionally, but I’ll hope for it.
And in the meantime I’ll entertain myself with a little zion is fat gallows humor.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:20 pm to GoodOne
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Z will have to diversify his game. He ain't going to avoid injuries by being a bull in a china shop. When he played, he was routinely trying to smash through a wall of 3 or 4 opponents. That's just asking for an injury. So this year it was his hammy. Next year ...?
Zion being able to play off ball and shoot would save him from some general wear and tear as well as game to game fatigue.
It would be great IF he could do that here.
Posted on 4/10/23 at 10:43 pm to tehchampion140
quote:Yea, people keep pointing to the fat thing and it's never held up. Every time comes back, he plays well and looks fine. He was in good shape all season and didn't look fat.
Uhhhhh, did you see the difference in how he looked coming into the season?
Posted on 4/10/23 at 11:57 pm to shel311
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Yea, people keep pointing to the fat thing and it's never held up. Every time comes back, he plays well and looks fine. He was in good shape all season and didn't look fat.
Staying in shape during the season is doable. He's willing to do enough.
Staying in shape when unable to play has proven to be a problem multiple times.
Getting in shape takes months IF he's dedicated.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:45 am to moneyg
Talked to my buddy who is close to some of the senior guys in the organization (not Griff). He basically said this has become a power play about getting Z to buy in to the program and grow up before his extension kicks in. Z flat out dislikes all the rules and metrics the training staff uses to determine if he can play, thinks they’re “stupid” and wants to play his way back, have fun, and help the team. Griff’s approach is very paternalistic to some even in the building who think he just doesn’t get or accept that it’s a players league and you risk alienating your franchise star by keeping him out until he hits the benchmarks you set. Said this dynamic between Z and Griff has been there from the start and almost caused a full rupture last year…second hand stuff but I trust the guy
Posted on 4/11/23 at 2:03 am to New City Champ
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Z flat out dislikes all the rules and metrics the training staff uses to determine if he can play, thinks they’re “stupid” and wants to play his way back, have fun, and help the team. Griff’s approach is very paternalistic
FREE ZION ...
... from the clutches of the evil villain Griff (who is oppressing players with his rules and metrics).
Let Zion play on Wednesday vs OKC. Do it.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 2:29 am to New City Champ
He’s had control issues from the beginning. He drove 2 coaches out because of his constant meddling in rotations. Only hired Willie because Griff literalky chose the staff and has constant input on who plays. He was fired from Cleveland for this exact reason. Im not saying Zion doesn’t have his issues but Griffin has been given full reign to do what he wants like a mad king possessed and wont stop unless Gayle fires him.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:45 am to Pels_Yaz
Zion is young, and clearly might not be making the best decisions or taking great care of himself, but I also REALLY don't trust Griff.
He's misled Pels fans many times before, and has continued to mislead fans about Zion's injury diagnosis. I don't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.
He's misled Pels fans many times before, and has continued to mislead fans about Zion's injury diagnosis. I don't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.
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