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Posted on 4/6/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted by painman1
Member since Jan 2023
295 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 12:44 pm to
The city buys the building and raises property taxes on existing properties to pay for it. Glad I'm not there.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted by BarryG
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 12:46 pm to
Most big cities have seen a similar increase in office vacancy rates. With the rise in interest rates its made owning underperforming buildings expensive so you'll see many up for sale and likely foreclosures in the next 6 months. This will put more pressure on banks and you may see another few go under.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3383 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 12:48 pm to
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If Cantrell buys 1615 Poydras that would take 500,000 sq ft of office space out of commerce in downtown NOLA and maybe that is the only answer to stabilizing the office market in New Orleans



That's where DXE is currently paying rent.

If they do this, what happens to the existing City Hall? It's an eyesore anyways. Can that be demolished and replaced with a park?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Most big cities have seen a similar increase in office vacancy rates. With the rise in interest rates its made owning underperforming buildings expensive so you'll see many up for sale and likely foreclosures in the next 6 months. This will put more pressure on banks and you may see another few go under.


Humana was smart as frick in how they handled occupancy here in downtown Louisville. During COVID when their folks were WFH, they rented out the space to the local school district to utilize as a "hub" for different services, onsite tutoring, etc during non-traditional/online instruction. Then moved folks back into the office (mostly hybrid) while being able to write off that rent during NTI and COVID.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11226 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 12:54 pm to
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f they do this, what happens to the existing City Hall? It's an eyesore anyways. Can that be demolished and replaced with a park?


Move out the history records to some place above sea level, in Central Louisiana.
Then implode the building. Any workers who were on the clock that day but not a work get collected and shot. Any workers who were helping citizens that day....oh, hell, the chance of any of them helping citizens is so remote that there's no reason to finish this sentence.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6537 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:30 pm to
People actually still have enough office jobs in New Orleans to reach 80% occupancy?

I’m shocked.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29006 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:32 pm to
I suspect the WFH issue and crime are problems but you have to factor in the cost of insurance for these buildings makes the financial numbers difficult to crunch for prospective tenants who must absorb the landlords insurance costs.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76334 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Can that be demolished and replaced with a park?


Would solve the problem of bum overcrowding at Duncan Plaza


Honestly would make a great spot for a transportation hub of some sort. Get them away from Canal and Rampart/Loyola
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77795 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:37 pm to
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WFH


Is New Orleans even a big enough market for a sustainable WFH model like you would see in other US cities?

It’s not a transient city like a Nashville, Phoenix, Atlanta and Charlotte.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76334 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:39 pm to
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It’s not a transient city like a Nashville, Phoenix, Atlanta and Charlotte




New Orleans is the definition of a transient city for WFH people. Good enough for a long vacation, not good enough to set down roots.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77795 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:42 pm to
Not necessarily true. Those cities I listed have a large number of people just passing through and aren’t from there.

There’s a lot of people in New Orleans that are born and raised there or from a surrounding parish in the metro area.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18749 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:45 pm to
I’m not sure what the plan is for city hall but I can tel you latoya has been dying to move out of it.

She was going to convert the mahalia Jackson if memory serves me correctly. Current city hall is some nice real estate but the building itself blows.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76334 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:46 pm to
I wouldn't say New Orleans is majority transient in any way, but the areas down the sliver are full of people just passing through for a few years. There are many many people who follow the 'charm' and live here for short stints.


My SO works for a <1000 person company with zero attachment to New Orleans. They can work from anywhere in the world, and some truly do that. There are 4 that live in NOLA and WFH. None have any roots here (nor really associate with each other), they just like the city. Beats the hell out of me. But it is cheap, just large enough, and full enough of drugs and weird shite.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61278 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:52 pm to
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People actually still have enough office jobs in New Orleans to reach 80% occupancy?


Yeah
It’s not a surprise to those of us who work downtown and k ow of all the companies that have offices there.

But I do agree, more and more WFH jobs and a declining business environment will continue to lead to more office spaces being on the market
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76334 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:57 pm to
Think WSJ reported occupancy (nationwide) was only 40-60% of pre-pandemic levels.

The push to bring people back into the office isn't going as easily as expected. WFH numbers have almost tripled in less than 4 years.

Still a lot of people in offices though.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59042 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 1:58 pm to
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People actually still have enough office jobs in New Orleans to reach 80% occupancy?

I’m shocked.

why would this shock you?
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18749 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 2:00 pm to
Because TD thinks nobody lives in NOLA that is employed or makes a decent living.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61278 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 2:03 pm to
Yeah they tell the baws at the plants and hunting camps that Nola is just Bourbon Street and housing projects. Nothing else exist
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85994 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 2:07 pm to
Plaza tower has 0% occupancy.

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