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Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:21 am to ThuperThumpin
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Remove the silliness of the concrete recording data and I think what you are saying could make sense.
That part isn't as silly as you may think. One of the main components in concrete is silica (SiO2). SiO2 is what is used to create thumb drives and other memory drives or storage folders on your computer by passing electrical current through it. Concrete mixtures also undergo a mild electrical exchange between ions as the water in the mixture reacts with the other components.
That concrete part could be a key feature of the phenomenon.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:39 am to BeepNode
quote:I know people I trust who have seen things they can't explain, like working in a restaurant and having plates and utensils thrown across the room. I know there a ton of people who won't believe anything unless they've experienced it, but everyone has different life experiences. Things happen every day that can't be explained by science. Not sure whether or not I believe in ghosts but it's ridiculous to say you don't respect someone who claims to have experienced something they can't explain. Maybe they're brain was just playing tricks, but it doesn't mean everybody who claims to have seen a ghost just made it up.
Why can't real scientific institutions prove they exist
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:43 am to UGATiger26
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These are the threads when the self-purported "science believers" (funny how it's hard to think of a better word than "believer") out themselves as to how little they actually understand the process of science and how narrow-minded they actually are in regard to the mysteries of our universe, which we've barely begun to scratch the surface of.
In reality, they're not "pro-science;" they're "anti-supernatural," which ironically is how everything that is now understood scientifically would once have been described.
They'd make terrible scientists.
Now apply that same logic to anyone that doesn't believe in Santa Claus.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:50 am to BeepNode
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Now apply that same logic to anyone that doesn't believe in Santa Claus.
We've been to the North Pole. Nobody lives there.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:55 am to BeepNode
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Now apply that same logic to anyone that doesn't believe in Santa Claus
Sure.
A kid that believes in Santa Claus has good reason for doing so.
Evidence A: They've been told by a trusted source - their parents - that Santa is real.
Evidence B: Because somebody or something came in the middle of the night and left presents under the tree.
Evidence C: The cookies and milk that were left out have been consumed.
Does the kid know that it was Santa who came in the night? No, but until they can confirm otherwise, it would be foolhardy to just refuse to think it's a possibility. For a five-year old child with minimal life experience, it's certainly a plausible enough theory.
Until the day comes when they decide to stay up and catch mom and dad putting presents under the tree. Voila, direct evidence has proven the Santa theory false.
I'm not aware that we possess any irrefutable evidence proving that the phenomenon we call "ghosts" is implausible.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:58 am to BeepNode
While personally I don't believe in ghost, I have never done the research to see of there is hard facts to support what I believe. People believe in a lot of crazy shite. I believe there is life somewhere beyond Earth, but I can't prove it and I am sure there are people who think people who believe there is life beyond Earth is a little insane.
With that said, I have two crazy aunts and since I can remember they have been obsessed with ghost and both have claimed to see ghost. Sometimes I think the eyes see what the mind wants it to see, but the funny thing about one of my aunts. They bought a house from a family of the old lady who lived and then died in the house. She already had it in her mind that this woman's spirit would be in the house.
She would always have these crazy stories about how her and her husband were in the living room and then all of a sudden hear cabinets opening and closing. Or that she was someone walk into one of her kid's bedrooms, thinking it was the kid, but passed by and the kid was sound asleep. She has four kids, and one of her sons would say that he went in the kitchen and there were plates on the floor with the cabinet door open.
Come to find out, those sons a bitches thought it was funny that their mom thought she saw ghost so they fricked with her. The one who did it the most told me and another cousin that sometimes, if he saw his parents watching TV but fell asleep doing so, he would run in the kitchen and open up some cabinets and run to his bed room. And that he would make up stories just to fuel her belief in ghost because he thought it was hilarious. As for as I know, to this day he has never told her it was him doing all the shite she thought was a ghost.
Me and my other cousin sure as hell wasn't going to say anything because it was a lot more funny knowing that it was mainly one of her sons who was doing things his mom truly believe was a ghost and anytime she would talk about something else that happened it just made it funnier and funnier.
With that said, I have two crazy aunts and since I can remember they have been obsessed with ghost and both have claimed to see ghost. Sometimes I think the eyes see what the mind wants it to see, but the funny thing about one of my aunts. They bought a house from a family of the old lady who lived and then died in the house. She already had it in her mind that this woman's spirit would be in the house.
She would always have these crazy stories about how her and her husband were in the living room and then all of a sudden hear cabinets opening and closing. Or that she was someone walk into one of her kid's bedrooms, thinking it was the kid, but passed by and the kid was sound asleep. She has four kids, and one of her sons would say that he went in the kitchen and there were plates on the floor with the cabinet door open.
Come to find out, those sons a bitches thought it was funny that their mom thought she saw ghost so they fricked with her. The one who did it the most told me and another cousin that sometimes, if he saw his parents watching TV but fell asleep doing so, he would run in the kitchen and open up some cabinets and run to his bed room. And that he would make up stories just to fuel her belief in ghost because he thought it was hilarious. As for as I know, to this day he has never told her it was him doing all the shite she thought was a ghost.
Me and my other cousin sure as hell wasn't going to say anything because it was a lot more funny knowing that it was mainly one of her sons who was doing things his mom truly believe was a ghost and anytime she would talk about something else that happened it just made it funnier and funnier.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:25 am to BeepNode
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Best chance of catching them is the witching hour. 2-3 AM.
I thought the witching hour was 3 to 4 AM.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:30 am to Swamp Angel
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That part isn't as silly as you may think. One of the main components in concrete is silica (SiO2). SiO2 is what is used to create thumb drives and other memory drives or storage folders on your computer by passing electrical current through it. Concrete mixtures also undergo a mild electrical exchange between ions as the water in the mixture reacts with the other components.
That concrete part could be a key feature of the phenomenon
What about battlefields, old structures made of wood, parks, or anywhere that has NO concrete whatsoever. How are those ghost images recorded and played back?
Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:31 am to BeepNode
Ghosts are a fact. More accurately, spirits are a fact. There are plenty of confirmed supernatural phenomena, and that is all I have to say on this subject.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:34 am to yoga girl
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yoga girl
Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:35 am to yoga girl
How's it going yoga? Its been a minute. How you been?
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:03 pm to BeepNode
Do you believe in demons? Aliens?
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:04 pm to BeepNode
I have lived in a house with ghost. You don't have to believe me. I can't explain it. But I know it happened.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:17 pm to BeepNode
During the dark ages people didn't know germs/disease spread through the air.
That we don't understand laws of quantum physics, how it could possibly explain other dimensions, or possible interaction with our known reality.......
With so many people reporting supernatural phenomena, there has to be something going on.
That we don't understand laws of quantum physics, how it could possibly explain other dimensions, or possible interaction with our known reality.......
With so many people reporting supernatural phenomena, there has to be something going on.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:29 pm to BeepNode
Didn't Lucy Liu say she got fricked by a ghost?
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:41 pm to Honest Tune
There are spiritual plains which exist and to deny it would be antithetical to every culture which has existed throughout human history.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:50 pm to Korkstand
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But think of it like this... imagine a being that lives in a 2 (spatial) dimensional world, a flat plane. It can't see or interact with anything outside of those two dimensions. It isn't even aware that there's a 3rd dimension. Now imagine that this 2 dimensional world exists inside or part of our 3 dimensional world. We might not ever notice it since it is so thin as to not really exist to us, but if we pass through it then that 2 dimensional being might detect us for a split second. It might not know what we are or what happened, just that "something" was there. Or we might detect that world as "something" that we can kinda sorta interact with. Now it's difficult for us to imagine a 4th spatial dimension, but let's try and think how beings in that world would see or interact with us?
Korkstand is clearly Edwin Abbot reincarnated. How can you have reincarnation without ghosts? You can't. Checkmate, empirical heretic.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:42 pm to Drank
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What about battlefields, old structures made of wood, parks, or anywhere that has NO concrete whatsoever. How are those ghost images recorded and played back?
I'll have to spend a bit more time ponderin' that one.
However, there are stories of people in England seeing Roman soldiers marching along an old paved Roman road. At points, the road is covered by several feet of soil as it winds along its way. Those who claim to have seen these ghosts have stated that the soldiers disappear into the soil as though they are marching on the paved stones and they re-emerge on the other side of whatever little hill the road passes through.
Just my thoughts. They're not fully fleshed out, but they're a starting point. I doubt I'll do much more searching or studying along those lines though. More important things await my attention.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:49 pm to BeepNode
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What is a ghost anyway, physically speaking? Why can't real scientific institutions prove they exist, but cornballs on TV can?
What's the physics behind it? Are they bound by gravity? What about animals?
Yeah, me too. Some people go to church every week and sing songs to imaginary ghost person. No one can prove it exists, except for people that profit from it.
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