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Kids weight gainer/ high calorie diet supplement

Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:04 am
My 9 year old daughter does competitive gymnastics and cheer and has been getting routine headaches mid morning, I'm fairly certain its from not enough calories. She eats very healthy and usually prefers fruits and vegetables, but she will eat many proteins also. But I don't think she eats enough. She almost has visible abs and is lean overall.

I have added scoops of icecream to a breakfast protein shake for her, but I'm not sure if that's a great long term idea especially as I have other kids.

She likes "shakes" and smoothies for breakfast, so I was thinking some weight gainer powder maybe worth a try? She eats a reasonable amount of bacon and ham, but I wish she'd eat more. I don't think she is anywhere close to having an eating problem but she is a kid so she can be picky some days.

Any other recommendations? I'm fairly good with basic nutrition but I don't know much about newer supplements.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:18 am to
Weight gain is all genetics baw. Some people gain weight easy and can’t lose it due to genetics and some people have thin genetics
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:33 am to
This has nothing to do with my OP, thanks though.

To add on, what I'm considering is helping her with a couple booster shakes a week of something like:

Whole milk or half/half
weight gainer
Yogurt or ice cream
banana

Some options like that?
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
555 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:00 am to
quote:

routine headaches mid morning, I'm fairly certain its from not enough calories.


I would keep an eating log for a few days and take the average calorie intake for day. That way you at least know where you are starting and how much more food you need to add if any.

Have you also considered her water intake? Or her sleep?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:01 am to
Peanut butter, either Smucker's natural or Crazy Richard's. You can add it to her shakes with whole milk, yogurt, bananas, honey, etc.

Smucker's ingredients: peanuts, salt
Smucker's nutrition facts for 2 tbsp:
190 calories
7 g carbohydrate
100 mg sodium (5% of DRV)
3 g fiber (10% of DRV)
8 g protein

Crazy Richard's ingredients: peanuts
Crazy Richard's nutrition facts for 2 tbsp:
180 calories
5 g carbohydrate
0 mg sodium
3 g fiber (11% of DRV)
8 g protein
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22508 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:33 am to
Probably need to see the doctor if headaches are frequent.

Also, gaining and losing fat is genetic and can't be helped as I was told by my sensei, gaucho
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23273 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Probably need to see the doctor if headaches are frequent.

Also, gaining and losing fat is genetic and can't be helped as I was told by my sensei, gaucho


We've talked to her pediatrician and she just said its pretty normal with kids growing that are very active.

I'm not necessarily trying to help her gain weight, I just think the calories will help her feel better.

Peanut butter is solid, I don't think she likes it though or at least not enough to just eat it. She's a kid, so just weird. I mean she'll eat bacon and steak and chicken fingers, but breakfast is really hard. She also gets very tired of the same foods, where as my other daughter eats a nutella sandwhich, apple sauce, cheese sticks, and goldfish for lunch 9/10 days of the week.
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
555 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:02 pm to
Yeah I don't know if weight gainer is absolutely necessary. It's probably the simplest way to add in an extra 500-1000 calories though.

Ultimately, if she needs more calories she has to eat more whether that's a protein/weight gainer powder or normal food. An extra meal or shake. Larger portions. Just figure out what works for her.

Try helping her understand that food gives her body what it needs to heal and perform well for her sports. Sometimes you don't have to love what you eat for it to be good for your body.

I make a pretty good shake that basically tastes like peanut butter and chocolate ice cream. It's a rip off of the peanut power plus from Smoothie King.

-Handful of dried dates, a banana, peanut butter, whole milk, table spoon of cocoa powder, and ice-

You can add greek yogurt as well if you want to up the protein. Maybe have this for breakfast with some eggs. And another similar shake after school or practice.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23273 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:42 pm to
I watched a youtube with her this morning on Michael Phelps diet for the olympics to try to show her that eating doesn't mean an athlete will be fat.

She has practice 3-4 days a week so she often will eat dinner beforehand and then another dinner or big snack afterward.

Its mostly breakfast she doesn't eat much. She likes some of the premixed protein drinks. She likes to buy lunch at school and seems to eat that normally.

I'm not talking about massive scoops of weight gainer like some of the 1000 calorie formulas, but I was thinking if I could throw in an extra 200 or so I could make a damn tasty smoothie home made. I just don't want to give her a bunch of crap, just throw in 200-400 extra calories to help her out.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:40 pm to
Yogurt is extremely protein-rich even for small amounts. 2/3 of a cup of Fage 0% fat yogurt has 16 g of protein in it.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:41 pm to
Yogurt is extremely protein-rich even for small amounts. 2/3 of a cup of Fage 0% fat yogurt has 16 g of protein in it.

But it sounds to me you're trying to educate her, which is the smart move, in my opinion. If she is a serious athlete she may have some heroes or heroines she looks up to and information about their diet might be able to persuade her to eat more or healthier to fuel her body. I do not have children though, so take my opinion for what it's worth.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1303 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:56 pm to
In a similar boat as a parent myself. My 9yo is in competitive gymnastics and trains 4 days a week (13-15 hrs/wk). She is also solid muscle with visible abs.
Sounds like our kids differentiate in that mine will eat the same thing every day if you let her and she definitely does NOT have the same palate as your daughter. She is very much a product of her routines and is thrown off if anything changes. Our goal is to just make sure she eats enough and it is in the 'healthy' to 'not junk' range.

Her breakfast is muffin/waffle and applesauce. Lunch is a PB&J, yogurt, and sometimes a small bag of chips/goldfish. She typically has a snack early afternoon of gram crackers and granola. Then before gym she will have a heavier snack; apple sauce, small protein shake, cheese stick, pepperoni, and some ritz crackers. After gym she eats dinner; this is typically a small portion of whatever we ate that night or some other form of protein (meatpie, meatballs, chicken nuggets, fish sticks, etc).

I gave this detail to show that my kid trains similar to yours with (assuming the accuracy of your post) a less healthy/variety of diet. It may not be calorie related at all.

Have you had her eyes checked or made sure she is getting enough water? Mine was getting similar headaches until she got glasses.

Edit: Wanted to make sure this post isn't meant to be condescending at all. I'm actually jealous that you can get your daughter to eat so healthy. I'm just now able to get my 12yo to eat more vegetables and proteins. The 9yo isn't having any of it yet. She'll go without eating before changing her diet.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 4:00 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10768 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 5:24 pm to
If she is getting headaches in the morning it’s from not being properly hydrated.

Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:02 pm to
Does she like ribs?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23273 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

If she is getting headaches in the morning it’s from not being properly hydrated.


We’ve pretty much correlated the mid morning headaches to not eating. If we don’t watch her she will just do something like have some slices of cucumber.

It’s bad enough she has advil (or whatever) at school and the school nurse has called us multiple times this semester. It also happens on the weekends and we’ve caught it before leaving for school.

Again it’s mostly breakfast and she will eat bacon, but seems to get tired of things or in phases. She likes things like fried chicken, ribs, steak, etc. also.

I was looking at weight gainer type of stuff to make her a very rich breakfast smoothie. She likes some of those pre mixed ones and has one of those probably 4 days a week but they are only 160 calories. I was thinking I could make her a couple flavors that were 400+? I’m just leery of giving a kid something meant for weight lifting adults.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 7:38 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23273 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Edit: Wanted to make sure this post isn't meant to be condescending at all. I'm actually jealous that you can get your daughter to eat so healthy. I'm just now able to get my 12yo to eat more vegetables and proteins. The 9yo isn't having any of it yet. She'll go without eating before changing her diet.


Good stuff no worries. Fwiw my other 2 aren’t nearly as healthy.

She’s eating a plum next to me on the couch as we speak.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:44 pm to
Peanut butter and honey. I have my kids eat honey bear straight.
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2506 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:25 am to
If she likes smoothies, then add calorie dense foods to those. Peanut butter, bananas, honey, etc. Throw some oats in there too. I wouldn't worry about supplements just yet. Stick with food. one for breakfast, one for dessert. Make sure she's hydrating enough too. Kids that age typically don't drink enough water except for when they're doing the activity. Make sure things are salted when eating, maybe a liquid IV while at practice.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 9:27 am
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Member since May 2021
7641 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:53 am to
quote:

But I don't think she eats enough. She almost has visible abs and is lean overall


Drink more water to start.

9 years old you're supposed to be generally not fat. Headaches can be anything. They might even be migraines that haven't been diagnosed by a doctor. I'd suggest taking her to a doctor to find out more before you potentially engage her in something that can be unhealthy long term.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23273 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

9 years old you're supposed to be generally not fat. Headaches can be anything. They might even be migraines that haven't been diagnosed by a doctor. I'd suggest taking her to a doctor to find out more before you potentially engage her in something that can be unhealthy long term.


Again we've talked to the pediatrician, she doesn't think its anything major. Overall she is very healthy. I'm not trying to make her fatter, simply pointing out that some extra calories won't hurt her.

The obvious is something like peanut butter, and I appreciate the help in that. But she's a kid and there's only so much peanut butter and water I can make her drink. I was trying to think outside of the normal box of things to supplement her diet with.
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