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re: Why does the left get so triggered when secession is brought up?

Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32907 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:57 pm to
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Why does the left get so triggered when secession is brought up?

The middle class stands the best chance to live autonomous.

Brandon said he would mow us down with F-16s and the left cheered
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91029 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:03 pm to
Understand the left hates normal, successful people. They’re made up of a bunch of white progressive losers who were bullied when they grew up and minorities who think the reason they aren’t successful is because the white man holds them down.

They are not content being separate from us because they know it will make us happy and that we will still exist out there somewhere making money and being happy with our families.

They want to either change us or control us into a pure miserable existence or eliminate us if that fails.

They are terrible at enterprise and they see those of us who own land, homes, small businesses as ones with all the power. They are incapable of attaining those things so they infiltrate all the government institutions and seek to destroy it all and put it in government control or the hands of a few liberal billionaires that side with their cause in a public-private partnership. They want to control where we live, what we eat, what we drive, and where we work
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:05 pm to
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You propose that 140 million people move to a new state than the one they currently live in?

No, they would obviously have that choice - as should each one of us if our current governance in our current state is not to our liking

The problem becomes if someone so inclined as to go out-of-control-statist-marxist violent

which I disagree with - and is a major reason for the SPLIT, the Divorce into workable ways

Peacefulness rules - and there should be many people who will not want to treat fellow American with violence.

Freedom

The governance being forced on a majority of Americans currently dictates the necessity of such a choice

This country and its trifling little borders will not last forever; hopefully free Americans will
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26802 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:07 pm to
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is a major reason for the SPLIT, the Divorce into workable ways

Go ahead and outline your geographic plan for this divorce.

Without that, everything else is just word salad. Nothing else matters unless and until you can draw lines.

Show me your smaller, poorer, weaker, and yet still politically divided successor states.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:11 pm to
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Go ahead and outline your geographic plan for this divorce.

already did it, but too rough at this point

it would work itself out

a bigger problem may possibly be violent people who want to justify their violence
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28646 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:13 pm to
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It's very simple. They want to control you and your issue into perpetuity.



They feel they're losing grip on the narrative as a regular joe voter. They know their format has been measured, weighed, and found utterly wanting.
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
521 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:14 pm to
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already did it, but too rough at this point

LOL
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it would work itself out


No. No, it wouldn't.

Not when 47% of Texas voted for Biden. Or when 48% of Florida voted for Biden. Or when Georgia is 50/50.

And good luck with your new country without California, Texas, Florida or New York.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26802 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:17 pm to
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already did it, but too rough at this point

When? You refused ad nauseum in your own thread on the subject. Link it. It should not be hard to reproduce or describe.
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it would work itself out

Wtf? No, a nation of 350mm people breaking into smaller pieces would not just “work itself out”. If it was going to be peaceful and consensual, it would have to be incredibly well thought out. Since you have obviously thought the whole thing through, I don’t understand why you can’t explain your proposal in more detail. You always refuse.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124328 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:17 pm to
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Because over 100,000,000 people can all just up and move.
100M?? What?

If 100M need to move, people need to damn well analyse the impact of their current votes.
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
521 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:21 pm to
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100M?? What?

If 100M need to move, people need to damn well analyse the impact of their current votes.


Yes, there are over 100M people that live in states where they are a different political ideology than the majority of the state.

That's kind of the beauty of the USA.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26802 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:22 pm to
Make it one million then. The point remains. Basing the viability of a “national divorce” on the presumption that huge amounts of people can just up and leave their homes to move elsewhere is total nonsense.

Huge amounts of people moving would be the only way to accomplish what these “national divorce” fantasies ostensibly are seeking—smaller but more politically and culturally homogenous entities. Tons of people across the nation would have to move to make that a reality.

Otherwise we’d just be stuck with smaller, poorer, weaker nations that all have the same general political, cultural, and economic breakdown as the current US does. Why anyone would trade the current nation for a handful of smaller ones that all have 40%+ political minorities (both red and blue areas), I have absolutely no idea.

It would solve nothing, and accomplish nothing. Beyond making everything even more expensive of course.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8356 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:32 pm to
Because they need working republicans to provide taxes.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:47 pm to
it was in my thread

it would work out like every time it has been peacefully approached

The USA and its trifling borders will not last - we may as well have self determination - NOT THEFT OF THE GOVERNMENT

No one has to 'up and leave' unless they want to.

commenting to morons against my better judgement
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26802 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:50 pm to
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it was in my thread

Oh good. Then you can easily link or copy it here. Or just give me a page number.

I asked multiple times in that thread and you stalwartly refused, so I’m glad you finally came around and interested to see your idea.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124328 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:54 pm to
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Yes, there are over 100M people that live in states where they are a different political ideology than the majority of the state.
Now do states seriously talking session.
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
499 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:56 pm to
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Who exactly is doing the producing you speak of?



Uhhh...the people that are a net positive to the economy with regards to what they provide versus what they take?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26802 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:56 pm to
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Now do states seriously talking session.

Then I guess there’s nothing to talk about.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 5:00 pm to
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Well then you’d have to be in a real bad position to even consider it. Like major bad loser position.

major bad THEFT problem

major bad EXTRACONSTITUTIONAL behaviors problem

major bad removal of freedoms problem
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
521 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 5:16 pm to
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Uhhh...the people that are a net positive to the economy with regards to what they provide versus what they take?


So not most southern states.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7439 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Because over 100,000,000 people can all just up and move.


How about using that $1,000,000,000,000 allocated for a reckless military budget for something useful?
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