2022 Team Total: 338/512 (66%) for 3969 yds 24 TDs 14 ints 38 sacks

63-90 career record as starter

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I knew the melts from the clueless would be glorious

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There aren't very many people melting.

This is one of those things where the sunshine pumpers today will be melting when the "I told you so's" reign supreme in a few years.

The only logically consistent the sunshine pumpers will be able to say is "this is what I wanted".

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the melts from the clueless

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Who is melting in this thread? It looks like straight numbers. Someone can believe that this was a poor signing given the teams current issues and coaching/roster makeup without “melting.”

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This is one of those things where the sunshine pumpers today will be melting when the "I told you so's" reign supreme in a few years.

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I guess the difference is I have yet to see any sunshine pumpers saying this signing will have this team winning championships. But, I have seen a lot of people saying we are overpaying for more of the same, back to the old days of suckage... I'd have to assume that means missing playoffs since the team has missed the past 2 years and only made the playoffs 5 times in 39 years before Payton.

Adding Carr, and potentially MT, and you have a team that should be in the NFCCG on a regular basis for the next few years. Maybe they sneak into the SB. But I think they inability to go much further is more about the coaching staff than it is about Carr.

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Adding Carr, and potentially MT, and you have a team that should be in the NFCCG on a regular basis for the next few years.

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Carr was given Adams and Jacobs then still ended up on the bench.

Not sure what you think the saints could do. Last year was the year to go cheap at qb and try to get our cap situation in better shape like I said. Now we paying an 8 figure cap penalty for Winston. And Allen is in a do or die season to win.

Good QBs don’t grow on trees. It usually cost significant draft capital to get one off another team or to move up in the draft to get one.

Carr is what he is, he’s not elite but he’s pretty much in the same tier as the best QBs in the NFC. There is no Burrow, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar etc to go through. If the saints can nail their draft picks, and some our young previous high draft picks make a jump, we can make some noise. Our division is shite and our schedule is pretty easy this year.

Biggest issue is I don’t have confidence in Allen as a HC.

Dude, thinking that adding a 32 year old QB with no playoff wins and expecting him to lead the Saints to the NFC CG “on a regular basis”, with a receiver that hasn’t played for 3 seasons with an ankle sprain, an aging defense, and arguably a bottom 5 head coach of all time

Is the absolute epitome of sunshine pumping bullshite homerism for absolutely no reason.

With all due respect.

I don`t know if Carr is going to be an improvement or not.
But the Saints had a QB named Manning who was a great talent
and only played on BAD teams.If he had been drafted by
Dallas or LAR he would have been all world.Lets all take a
step back and see how it goes.

Sure, call it blind optimism or sunshine pumping. But, the landscape of the NFC does not have many teams that should have people concerned. I think SF falls back in the records once they turn it back to Lance, then they're about to lose their safety net and will need to rely on a season of Purdy as back-up if Lance gets injured again. Philly will continue to be the favorite in the NFC, and there is a lot of blah after that. I'll take the Saints over Minn, Dal, Sea...

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Carr was also apart of a BAD organization with multiple head coaches, coordinators. Heck they JUST this past yr got him a legit WR1. Let's see how it pans out before we throw him under the bus

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logic and reason have no place here,

be gone kind sir