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re: Miracle weight loss shots hyped by Hollywood linked to deadly bowel obstructions
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:11 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:11 am to Prominentwon
quote:This is what and how it should be used IMHO. Surprisingly, my lab work is that of a perfectly healthy person.
The reason I got on them because bloodwork came back and I was pre diabetic. At 220 lbs. I guess that comes along with the genes, I don’t know, because I was surprised when they told me where I was at.
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:13 am to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:I believe his point still stands.
Those guys all walk around 12-15 lbs heavier than their fighting weight,
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
But researchers in China..
Um yeah. Is there anyone else that maybe found this out? The levels of bullshite "researchers in China" have peeled off is a little suspect, just saying.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:16 am to tigerbandpiccolo
That’s great you found what worked for you.
Everyone is different though.
Yeah you will have those that abuse this med truly thinking they can just take a shot and magically lose weight. You have people abusing anything out there…that’s nothing new.
But there are some people that use this med as a tool in combination with other healthy habits (such as exercise) to lose weight. People that have “done the work” as you say and never saw real results. This med has been a life changer for some of those folks.
Don’t be so quick to judge others because they didn’t do it “your way”
Everyone is different though.
Yeah you will have those that abuse this med truly thinking they can just take a shot and magically lose weight. You have people abusing anything out there…that’s nothing new.
But there are some people that use this med as a tool in combination with other healthy habits (such as exercise) to lose weight. People that have “done the work” as you say and never saw real results. This med has been a life changer for some of those folks.
Don’t be so quick to judge others because they didn’t do it “your way”
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:17 am to mikelbr
Get off my lawn
I’m just fed up with our culture when it comes to health and fitness. I’m trying so hard to teach my kids better so that they don’t have to struggle how I did, and so that they view their bodies in a healthy way, knowing that wellness is the goal…and not protruding hip bones (that was the thing when I was in HS and college).
I’m just fed up with our culture when it comes to health and fitness. I’m trying so hard to teach my kids better so that they don’t have to struggle how I did, and so that they view their bodies in a healthy way, knowing that wellness is the goal…and not protruding hip bones (that was the thing when I was in HS and college).
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:21 am to lsunurse
It’s not “my way”. It’s the scientific way. You are losing weight due to a caloric deficit. You can achieve this with or without a drug, but one way masks the feelings of depravation. There is a LOT of psychology that goes into eating that no one is willing to deal with.
I will continue to judge this method as it is people trying to achieve the result without the honest pain that comes with the work.
I will continue to judge this method as it is people trying to achieve the result without the honest pain that comes with the work.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:21 am to lsunurse
quote:So the drug that makes you not eat as much works better than not eating as much?
But there are some people that use this med as a tool in combination with other healthy habits (such as exercise) to lose weight. People that have “done the work” as you say and never saw real results.
If it is working for these people doesnt that prove that they didnt actually do the work in the past?
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:22 am to Prominentwon
quote:It pretty much is the conventional way.
but didn’t do it the conventional/their way.
The shot slows down the digestive process. People don't feel hungry and eat less.
Eating less always enables someone to lose weight. Most humans are just gluttons and want to blame a 'thyroid' or other medical issue.
Calories in, minus calories burned, equals how fat you are. People can control both factors in this equation; they simply don't.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:22 am to tigerbandpiccolo
quote:
I work hard to be healthy but none of that came overnight
Beats the magic pill every time.Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:24 am to tigerfoot
EXACTLY. They’re in a caloric deficit.
Let’s be real-when you cut down your calories and eat less in order to lose weight, you are generally going to experience some level of deprivation and/or hunger pang. Yea, you can eat better foods that are going to better satiate you and that’s a good way to avoid the hunger. But there will be adjustments, there will be longing for the crap you used to put into your body. The shot just masks that because it eliminates your appetite almost entirely. Most people taking the shot have to force themselves to eat.
Let’s be real-when you cut down your calories and eat less in order to lose weight, you are generally going to experience some level of deprivation and/or hunger pang. Yea, you can eat better foods that are going to better satiate you and that’s a good way to avoid the hunger. But there will be adjustments, there will be longing for the crap you used to put into your body. The shot just masks that because it eliminates your appetite almost entirely. Most people taking the shot have to force themselves to eat.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:25 am to tigerfoot
quote:
So the drug that makes you not eat as much works better than not eating as much?
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:28 am to tigerbandpiccolo
quote:
I’m just fed up with our culture when it comes to health and fitness. I’m trying so hard to teach my kids better so that they don’t have to struggle how I did, and so that they view their bodies in a healthy way, knowing that wellness is the goal…and not protruding hip bones (that was the thing when I was in HS and college).
How about adderall and vynase? Should those people taking those just study a little harder??
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:29 am to tigerfoot
quote:
So the drug that makes you not eat as much works better than not eating as much?
Well for me…I am insulin resistant so this med addressed that. For my specific medical condition it is more than just suppressing my appetite
Remember this med is given to also treat type 2 diabetes.
I have eaten as little as I did on this med before and didn’t lose as much as I have on this med.
It is well known that this isn’t a med you just take until you meet your goal weight. If you start this med you commit to taking it long term. My dr already explained this would be a long term med for myself and I would need routine labs while on the meds. And I was ok with that because I wanted not only the weight loss but the lowered A1C.
Now….I can’t take it cause of my insurance and I do worry I will gain the weight back (many do). I’m just trying to increase my exercise and watch my diet to avoid this.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:31 am to tigerbandpiccolo
quote:
I will continue to judge this method as it is people trying to achieve the result without the honest pain that comes with the work.
This is dumb. And honestly, its just bitchy and insecure.
These can be legit life changing for obese people.
I just want them to realize that their path to a healthy life doesn't end after they lose the weight.
But shaming them certainly isn't the correct way.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 9:32 am
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:39 am to Prominentwon
quote:
@ the pretentious gym guys mad that people lose weight differently than them….yet there are 20 page threads about peptides on this board somewhere
Yep, you are only allowed to lose weight if you wear lululemon in a non-air conditioned, chop shop converted garage.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:41 am to Salmon
quote:
This is dumb. And honestly, its just bitchy and insecure.
These can be legit life changing for obese people.
I just want them to realize that their path to a healthy life doesn't end after they lose the weight.
But shaming them certainly isn't the correct way.
See Picc, I tole you you were old and crotchety now.
Be nice!
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:49 am to mikelbr
I’m not shaming the morbidly obese who need to lose 100 lbs just to walk up the street without having a heart attack. I have a relative who I wish would take this just to have a fighting chance as I’m watching them kill themselves with a fork. It’s the same way I have no issue with weight loss surgeries, as long as there is a great deal of psychological counseling in order for that person to make the real life long lifestyle changes that will keep the weight off.
I do have a huge issue with people doing it just to lose their vanity weight that simply won’t do the real work. I promise that’s the majority of the people on it for weight loss right now.
ETA-salmon, it may be bitchy but it isn’t insecure. My neighbor is an MD and feels the same way, his rants are glorious. Does that make him insecure? Bitchy, crotchety, maybe. Not insecure. Just calling it for what it is.
I do have a huge issue with people doing it just to lose their vanity weight that simply won’t do the real work. I promise that’s the majority of the people on it for weight loss right now.
ETA-salmon, it may be bitchy but it isn’t insecure. My neighbor is an MD and feels the same way, his rants are glorious. Does that make him insecure? Bitchy, crotchety, maybe. Not insecure. Just calling it for what it is.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:52 am to Salmon
quote:
But shaming them certainly isn't the correct way.
The lack of shaming combined with no self control is why there are so many obese people.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:53 am to tigerbandpiccolo
quote:
I do have a huge issue with people doing it just to lose their vanity weight that simply won’t do the real work. I promise that’s the majority of the people on it for weight loss right now.
Instead of shaming, show them how they are actively degenerating their bodies instead.
Otherwise, yes, it just comes off as insecurity. Even your doctor friend.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
The lack of shaming combined with no self control is why there are so many obese people.
I'm fine with shaming people that are not actively trying to fix an issue.
But that isn't what this thread is about.
Although I doubt its very effective, often it has the opposite affect.
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