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re: Would you support a ban on foreigners purchasing residential US real estate?

Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:56 am to
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:56 am to
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Foreigners…..is a wide brush! Narrow it down to not allowing certain nations and I’m with you


To be clearer, I'm more talking about foreigners buying property as investment, vs using the property to live in. IMO we should be doing what we can to keep property costs manageable. I'm not sure how much foreign buyers are driving up the market, but it can't help.

If a foreigner is legally here to work and will live in the property, then I have no issue with it.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3016 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:03 pm to
Americans can't own property in China so....
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15493 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:10 pm to
Yes
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
679 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:23 pm to
Yes, especially China, also farm land, timber, natural resources, etc
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64295 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:25 pm to
Ban? No.

Restrictions? Yes.

What restrictions do you propose? you may ask.

Probably a few thousand pages worth. You have to account for proxy purchases and whatnot. You have to deal with local concerns state's rights and so forth. You have to account for what the property will be used for- is Kia building another factory in the middle of nowhwere Alabama (good) or is China buying up all the residential units in a zip code (bad)?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54921 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:31 pm to
Rupert Murdoch only became a US citizen so he could own US media. Should have denied his application. As least he was honest when he said "I am not in the News business, I am in the Entertainment business".
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:31 pm to
Yes !!! And certainly crop land and timberland too !
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8521 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:33 pm to
Yes. Next question
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39856 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Investment groups have no business owning individual residential homes, period!

Why not? That’s a bizarre assertion. I know lots of people who own homes that they rent out. These are “Investment Companies” that are sole proprietorships. Is that okay? If so, how many owners must an investment company have before you decide it’s inappropriate for them to own houses.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39856 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:56 pm to
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Absolutely. No foreign entity should own a blade of grass on American soil.

Again, why not? We have a committee (CFIUS) that judges whether these investments are against America’s interest. As long as CFIUS approves, why wouldn’t we let Americans be enriched by selling to foreigners? Only backwards nations do this, BTW.
Posted by Dkvet
Member since Sep 2020
96 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:06 pm to
The best way to fix prices for big ticket items is eliminate loans for them. When people have to pay cash, they will become affordable.

Same with college tuition.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19632 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:13 pm to
Hell yes
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18098 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:17 pm to
absolutely yes.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18098 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:17 pm to
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Would you support a ban on foreigners purchasing residential US real estate?


absolutely yes.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3080 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:31 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7349 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:56 pm to
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nd/or investment groups like blackrock?

Do you feel like the opportunity to own a home is a fundamental American value?

What’s the best way to fix home prices? Do they need to be fixed?

We’ve seen what governmental involvement has done to healthcare and college prices, so more government involvement is not always best.


Not no but hell no. The state has no business telling citizens who they can and can't sell their property to.

Owning a home is a fundamental American value, in my opinion, but it is a really bad idea for most people today. Owning a piece of property limits opportunities and while many think it is a good investment with maintenance costs and mortgage interest it ain't that great. Owning anything is a burden...real estate is not exempt from this. Unless a person is dead set on staying in an area for more than 5 years or so renting is far more beneficial. The opportunity to advance careers is severely limited by owning a home.

Home prices are what they are. There are some ways to make housing more affordable though. Zoning and building codes are out of control. In the last 20 years changes to the national electrical code alone have increased the cost of new construction by almost 100% adjusted for inflation....just to wire a new home...and have done nothing statistically to make a home safer or more efficient...in fact some of those changes has set the clock back 50 years. The same is true of every system in a home. Zoning is an even bigger problem. Take a look at the typical tract housing complex in the US built over the the last 30 years and you will find HUGE lots that are not used for anything other than growing grass. 90% of those developments would have been as easy to sell had they been built as attached townhomes...but there ain't no money in that because no one is willing to do the infrastructure to support it. You can as easily connect 100 3/2s on small lots or even attached as you can 25 3/2s on 1/4 acre or bigger lots but the planning boards, comprised of real estate developers and builders, promote the idea of a big yard that can't be used for anything other than growing grass....and most Americans agree. Allowing property owners to do with their property what they will as long as it does not negatively impact other property owners is the way to lower housing costs but there ain't no money in that.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7349 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:01 pm to
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quote:
No

that would be stupid



CHICOMS should not be allowed to do shite here.



I know it is universally considered a basic tenet of indisputable fact that communism is inferior to capitalism YET it seems that when the state controls everything capitalists always struggle to compete LOL. SO Chinese (communist) investors are able to buy residential real estate in the US but Americans (capitalists) can't. There is a disconnect there somehow.

The actual truth is that when the state is competing against the individual the individual is ALWAYS going to come out on the short end of the stick.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7349 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Investment groups have no business owning individual residential homes, period!

Foreigners…..is a wide brush! Narrow it down to not allowing certain nations and I’m with you




VERY simple way to make them less attractive to investors, but that would require investors to pay taxes like working people do. That ain't going to happen because you can't tax businesses lest you dampen the mythical trickle down effect.....make real estate investment unattractive from a tax POV and all of a sudden no investors other than people actually living in a house would be interested. Of course that ain't gonna happen because it would mean some regulation of investment and you can't have that....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7349 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Yes. In addition, the government needs to nationalize all property owned by foreign entities and sell it back to Americans.
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Foreigners aren't covered by the Constitution and have no rights
.


They certainly do, with a few exceptions.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36559 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:23 pm to
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On individuals it depends on investment groups no I do not.


I feel like you wrote that backwards. At least I hope so.
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