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re: ATL Thread | 2023 Spring Training discussion + hot takes
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:46 pm to Broski
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:46 pm to Broski
Every team in this day and age has a model that projects value, wins / $ etc.
Obviously Zips isn’t perfect and obviously every team has their own numbers on guys, but the zips projections on these guys over the next 5 seasons are
Olson
2023 4.6
2024 4.2
2025 3.6
2026 3.0
2027 2.1
Freeman
2023 4.9
2024 4.1
2025 3.3
2026 1.5
2027 0.5
Obviously Zips isn’t perfect and obviously every team has their own numbers on guys, but the zips projections on these guys over the next 5 seasons are
Olson
2023 4.6
2024 4.2
2025 3.6
2026 3.0
2027 2.1
Freeman
2023 4.9
2024 4.1
2025 3.3
2026 1.5
2027 0.5
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:50 pm to volfan30
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Olson
2023 4.6
2024 4.2
2025 3.6
2026 3.0
2027 2.1
So they have Olson falling off a cliff after he hits 30?
I don't think that happens.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:51 pm to auyushu
quote:
Just to be clear though, I agree we should have signed Freddie simply because of the value of the prospects alone. We could have fixed our gigantic LF hole with those prospects.
Or SS because we wouldn't have had to trade for Murphy if we kept Shea.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:58 pm to Broski
Ideally yeah, but I didn't really see SS as a trade hole to fill simply because I don't know of any realistic SS that we could have traded for with our prospects.
We wouldn't have enough to get Adames even if the Brewers were willing. We could probably have swung Rosario, but he's only a two WAR player and in his free agent year anyway.
The truth of the matter is SS just slim pickings.
We wouldn't have enough to get Adames even if the Brewers were willing. We could probably have swung Rosario, but he's only a two WAR player and in his free agent year anyway.
The truth of the matter is SS just slim pickings.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:00 am to Broski
Big drop at 33 which there is precedence for for non HOF level players. 35 has been the magic number for the elite guys.
Now, I agree Freddie is the better player and likely will be for the next couple of seasons. But I do think there are quite a few orgs who would definitely choose the $8M AAV discount for a guy who is in a much safer area on the aging curve.
With the entire situation factored in I think the Braves would have been better off just paying Freddie, but value wise (contract and player only) I think there’s a pretty easy argument to be made for Olson for a lot of teams.
Probably less than 10 teams in the sport who would sign up for $26M AAV for a 1B in his age 35 and 36 season.
Now, I agree Freddie is the better player and likely will be for the next couple of seasons. But I do think there are quite a few orgs who would definitely choose the $8M AAV discount for a guy who is in a much safer area on the aging curve.
With the entire situation factored in I think the Braves would have been better off just paying Freddie, but value wise (contract and player only) I think there’s a pretty easy argument to be made for Olson for a lot of teams.
Probably less than 10 teams in the sport who would sign up for $26M AAV for a 1B in his age 35 and 36 season.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:02 am to volfan30
quote:
Probably less than 10 teams in the sport who would sign up for $26M AAV for a 1B in his age 35 and 36 season.
Uncle Steve will sign Freddie as bat boy when he’s 39 for the Atlanta series for 2 million
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:04 am to volfan30
quote:
Probably less than 10 teams in the sport who would sign up for $26M AAV for a 1B in his age 35 and 36 season.
I think they would if they get MVP level production 31-34.
Have to look at the overall picture. And even at 35 and 36, Freddie is still going to be hitting at a decent clip.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:21 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
Your fanbase is fricking delusional.
Luckily for you, it’s mostly sustained success that does that to you.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:27 pm to sorantable
quote:
Luckily for you, it’s mostly sustained success that does that to you.
Atlanta has as many titles as the Mets
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Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:45 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
Atlanta has as many titles as the Mets
The Braves as an organization (BOS, MIL, ATL) have 4 WS titles('1914, '57, '95 & '21) and have been to 10 World Series. So they have twice as many titles and have been to 7 more WS.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:54 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Acuna just legged out a triple.
Good to see him run.
Good to see him run.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:39 pm to sorantable
quote:
Ronald rakin
Him playing in the WBC was a blessing. He got his usual slow start out of the way already.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:41 pm to Broski
That poor ball had a family.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:04 pm to Elleshoe
Well that should be the last we ever hear from you
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:08 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
Atlanta has 2. And since the Mets have existed they each have 2. I know your mongoloid daughter taught you to count but that’s the same amount
You're a piece of shite
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:09 pm to Pettifogger
Thank God. He ain't even worth the breath to respond to.
I know I haven't always endeared myself on here and that's on me and my mouth getting me in trouble(and it will again), but I would never stoop that low to involve someone's family let alone someone's kid. That's just low-life shite.
I know I haven't always endeared myself on here and that's on me and my mouth getting me in trouble(and it will again), but I would never stoop that low to involve someone's family let alone someone's kid. That's just low-life shite.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:09 pm to VADawg
That’s not just permaban stuff, that’s lose your job stuff
I assume he’s drunk out of his mind
I assume he’s drunk out of his mind
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