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Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:27 pm to VADawg
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Freeman should have shite or gotten off the pot and made a decision, then. AA had more work to do that offseason and needed to get on with it.
Freddie handled it poorly by letting his shite agent do the communicating, but the fact that AA and Freddie never spoke during the offseason (not including the lockout time where that would've been illegal) was majorly stupid by both parties.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:30 pm to sorantable
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AA low-balling him created the whole situation.
He did his job. His job is not to pay the player the money he wants. His job is to pay the player at a salary the team is comfortable with.
I for one am glad the Braves have a GM that does not allow any emotions to cloud his judgment. The opposite of that is the Falcons, who are one of the worst run franchises in pro sports.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:39 pm to VADawg
It’s disingenuous as hell to act it would’ve been emotionally unstable if AA had done more to keep in contact with a top 5 hitter in the MLB.
Instead, we paid a premium to get a top 20 or 30 hitter and then signed him to an AAV that wasn’t too far off what Freddie would’ve signed for.
Instead, we paid a premium to get a top 20 or 30 hitter and then signed him to an AAV that wasn’t too far off what Freddie would’ve signed for.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:43 pm to VADawg
I disagree, but I don’t have time to argue about it. I’ve said my piece.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:44 pm to sorantable
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I’m mostly done bitching about it, and I hate to bring it back up, but anytime someone is singing AA’s praises for getting lucky raiding the bargain bin a couple years ago while ignoring his many missteps, it needs to be brought up that all-time Braves great Freddie Freeman, in his fricking prime, one year removed from winning the NL MVP, a few months removed from winning a WS, probably one of the best locker rooms guys ever, greatly respected by literally everyone in the league, wanted badly to stay in ATL and wasn’t even asking for much in the grand scheme of things, and AA basically forced him to walk by going behind his back and trading for Matt Olson, who I like, but STILL. Blame who you want, but AA could have initiated all the contact with Freddie’s camp that we wanted to, and frankly, the ball was in his hands, not Freddie’s. That situation was and is 100% on AA, and we’re about to hear the same bullshite with Fried.
This take is fricking horseshite. Freddie Freeman is a grown-arse man. If he wanted to stay in Atlanta, he’d still be there. He’s the talent, he had all the leverage, but he acted like a fricking bitch and let a bunch of other people make the biggest decision of his and his family’s life. I loved Freddie, and will always appreciate what he did for us his whole career and especially winning the WS. But he’s a beta pussy, and I lost a lot of respect for him. I’d rather have Olson at his age, his price, his projected production, and his bigger set of balls.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:46 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:47 pm to sorantable
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I disagree, but I don’t have time to argue about it
Yep. No one is changing anyone else's opinion on this topic. It's something I enjoy talking about though because team building and roster construction is one of my favorite aspects of sports.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:50 pm to VADawg
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It's something I enjoy talking about though because team building and roster construction is one of my favorite aspects of sports.
Same
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:54 pm to VADawg
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Freeman should have shite or gotten off the pot and made a decision,
Yep.
Freddie played himself. Period.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:04 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
They both played each other because neither acted like fricking adults and in the end they both fricked themselves.
Freddie because he did want to stay in Atlanta
AA because he had to sacrifice a lot in farm resources to bring in a very good player but someone not on the previous 1B level both in production and stature.
Freddie because he did want to stay in Atlanta
AA because he had to sacrifice a lot in farm resources to bring in a very good player but someone not on the previous 1B level both in production and stature.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:09 pm to Hot Carl
I think his wife had a lot to do w/his pussy-footing around.
He FAFO.
He FAFO.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:15 pm to Broski
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someone not on the previous 1B level both in production
I think this part is going to change very soon. Olson is going to overtake Freeman within the next two years as he enters his prime and Freeman exits his. It would not shock me one bit if he has a 45ish HR season. I think I'm more bullish on Olson's future than most people though.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:19 pm to VADawg
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I think this part is going to change very soon. Olson is going to overtake Freeman within the next two years as he enters his prime and Freeman exits his. It would not shock me one bit if he has a 45ish HR season. I think I'm more bullish on Olson's future than most people though.
I hope you're right.
But as it stands at this very moment, if you polled every single MLB GM (and gave AA truth serum) asking them which player between Freeman and Olson they would rather have from now until 2028, I think all 30 pick one guy.
It's not fair to Olson because, again, he's a very good player and we're in a good spot with him at 1B. But he simply doesn't project to be the overall complete hitter that Freddie has been and will be for the next few years.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:36 pm to Broski
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But as it stands at this very moment, if you polled every single MLB GM (and gave AA truth serum) asking them which player between Freeman and Olson they would rather have from now until 2028, I think all 30 pick one guy.
Me too. Matt Olson. Especially at their prices.
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It's not fair to Olson because, again, he's a very good player and we're in a good spot with him at 1B. But he simply doesn't project to be the overall complete hitter that Freddie has been and will be for the next few years.
Matt Olson may have more HRs + 2Bs in 2023 than Freddie in ‘23 and ‘24 combined.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:41 pm to Hot Carl
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Especially at their prices.
Huh?
Freddie is making $8m more AAV. That's nothing in the grand scheme of baseball payroll, especially when you factor in LA's cost of living.
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Matt Olson may have more HRs + 2Bs in 2023 than Freddie in ‘23 and ‘24 combined.
What on earth are we doing here?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:59 pm to Broski
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Huh?
Freddie is making $8m more AAV. That's nothing in the grand scheme of baseball payroll, especially when you factor in LA's cost of living.
It's the age difference. No GM in their right mind would rather have 36 year old Freeman than 32 year old Olson. Especially at the price.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:49 pm to VADawg
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It's the age difference. No GM in their right mind would rather have 36 year old Freeman than 32 year old Olson. Especially at the price.
1) 36 isn't that old for a first baseman.
2) They would if they know they get MVP-level production from at least 32-34 seasons.
This idea that Freddie is just going to fall off a cliff and suddenly become an unproductive hitter is just wishful thinking.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:26 pm to Broski
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What on earth are we doing here?
Your fanbase is fricking delusional.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:45 pm to Broski
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) 36 isn't that old for a first baseman.
Literally every good 1B of the last 20 years has become a sub 3 WAR player by age 35, with most becoming so by 34 or before (including Miggy, Pujols, and Votto). Freeman may buck the trend, but there is zero to statistically support your argument that 36 isn't old for a 1B.
There are a couple DH that maintained a semi elite level in their mid 30s in Ortiz and Nelson Cruz, but Ortiz was a juicer. And we both know Freddie isn't going to agree to be a full time DH.
Just to be clear though, I agree we should have signed Freddie simply because of the value of the prospects alone. We could have fixed our gigantic LF hole with those prospects.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 11:50 pm
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