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re: America is Balkanizing
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:02 pm to Bronc
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:02 pm to Bronc
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It’s not about improving the system, it’s just a back door way to justify a sort of one party, limited representative feudalism
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Bronc
No. It's not racist.
It allows those with skin in the game to vote while preventing those that pay nothing in from voting benefits to themselves.
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Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:02 pm to fightin tigers
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Because you couldn't afford it
You dont own anything do you?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:04 pm to deeprig9
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Our checks and balances are eroding. In the face of pure unfettered democracy, it's natural to take a closer look at who gets to vote.
Why isn't it natural to look at why 'checks and balances are eroding' though? I mean, for me it seems like there has been excessive regulatory capture at every level of American life. I suspect that even if there is agreement about that claim, that nothing will be done, because for some reason coalition politics doesn't work anymore.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:04 pm to BuckyCheese
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It allows those with skin in the game to vote while preventing those that pay nothing in from voting benefits to themselves.
Has this ever worked anywhere? It sounds like a terrible system of governance.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:05 pm to WestCoastAg
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portlands metro population makes up almost 60% of the states population Id say it does speak for the majority of the state
100% of Portland voted one way?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:05 pm to Lakeboy7
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You dont own anything do you?
I invested in POGs. Needless to say, I've been recovering.
People losing their land due to tax burden is a reality for some. Do something stupid like people suggest in this thread and there will be about 50 people (facetious) carrying the tax burden for the country.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:05 pm to deeprig9
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In the face of pure unfettered democracy,
In what country are you talking about? Cause it’s not America.
Not when an entire representative body ignores and can govern without a population majority behind it(senate), win the presidency(electoral college), and overrule almost any law passed(The Supreme Court)
And in a significant portion of states, representatives get to draw the lines of their constituencies to the point we have several states that have near total party control of that state where the majority of population didn’t support them. And the federal body that is supposed to be proportional and representative, often is not
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:08 pm to fightin tigers
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People losing their land due to tax burden is a reality for some.
I agree, and a buying opportunity for others.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:10 pm to Bronc
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Bronc
You were less shitty under your old screen name, Afreaux
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:12 pm to billjamin
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No, it’s a scheme to watch people’s heads melt when they get 1/4 vote and my wife gets 25,000. Some men just want to watch it all burn.
It’s also a joke, I’m not being serious. I thought that was more clear.
Your "that's my point" threw me off on it being tongue in cheek. And damn! 25k acres is a nice chunk. Good for y'all
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:12 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:I think the theoretical point is that if you have to continually pay the government to keep it, and you have to follow their laws on how you manage it, you don’t own it outright. More like a perpetual lease.
Ok, but why wouldnt I pay the taxes on property I own outright?
Depending on where you live, you could buy your house for cash, then not pay your HOA dues for a couple years, and still be foreclosed on.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:13 pm to MoarKilometers
quote:Pretty sure it was sarcasm.
It's a silly one. I know tons of folks who pay more in taxes than me, yet under your system I get 24 votes and they get none. Seems more like a scheme to peddle worthless land, 1 acre at a time.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:19 pm to BuckyCheese
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It allows those with skin in the game
if your laws, policies, taxes, affect someone renting a condo, they have just as much skin in the game as someone that owns some acre of land in backwoods bawville, and considering how much of our politics revolves around issues that are especially acute in cities(business, education, crime, homelessness, culture, pollution) they can often have more skin in the game. Not to mention most landlords simply pass on any taxes to the tenant.
There’s also nothing stopping land-owners from voting to enshrine policies that lock in their own gains and lock out others from entering the land owning class….though i very much would love to hear how capital groups buying up neighborhoods for AirBNB’s factor into this lunacy? Does Blackrock get like 1,000,000 votes in this system?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:21 pm to Bronc
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if your laws, policies, taxes, affect someone renting a condo, they have just as much skin in the game
Not when the gubment is paying. Most of those people end up getting more back from gubment than they pay in.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:22 pm to Lakeboy7
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Agreed, full ownership. People paying a note dont really "own" their property, they have an ownership interest and no title.
Yes, they do "own" it.
As long as I pay the note, the bank cannot come in and force me to sell the property or tell me what color to paint the walls or what tile to use in the bathroom.
Even if you have no note, skip on the property taxes for a year or two and report back on how that works for you.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:23 pm to BuckyCheese
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It allows those with skin in the game to vote while preventing those that pay nothing in from voting benefits to themselves.
I just don't think it solves the underlying problem. Shifting the balance of power back to the producers still keeps us in a modified version of the status quo - where we all compete every 2-4 years to see which contingent of 100m people get to lord over the other 200m people.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:24 pm to dsides
100% of rural oregon voted one way?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not when the gubment is paying. Most of those people end up getting more back from gubment than they pay in.
then by extension do states like Louisiana just no longer get to vote at all? Maybe lose their Senate and Rep seats? Afterall, you all take more in than you give.
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Only one other state - namely, Wyoming - relies on the federal government for more of its revenue than Louisiana, which relies on the federal government for 52.27% of its money. The Pelican State also receives $1.60 in federal funding for every $1 it pays in income taxes, the seventh-most across our study.
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Alaska has the fourth-largest federal share of state government revenue, as more than half of its revenue (50.83%) comes from federal sources. Nearly 7% of the state’s workforce is employed by the federal government, the fourth-most across our study. Meanwhile, the state has the sixth-largest ratio of federal funding to income taxes paid (1.62).
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:24 pm to WestCoastAg
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100% of rural oregon voted one way?
Love Tillamook cheese and ice cream.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 2:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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One city owning the politics of an entire state is pathetic. Its time to redraw some political lines.
Louisiana has 2
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