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re: Florida To Begin Sentencing Pedophiles to Death – Democrats Outraged

Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:05 pm to
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It's the offense with the highest recidivism rate, and it can't be cured with therapy.


I would absolutely support the DP being on the table for repeat offenders.

Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12297 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:09 pm to
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Roger, you got up in my grill, arguing that child molesters


Uh oh Roger you got in the grill of a pedophile protector. Better be glad you're not a child.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Roger, you got up in my grill, arguing that child molesters will re-offend, when I had stated (several times) that they have a high rate of recidivism. It is readily-apparent that you did not understand the terminology.

That may be the dumbest thing you've ever said. You absolutely are a social retard. I said nothing remotely close to "Not understanding recidivism."

In fact, the fricking DP is to address the recidivism rates of child rapists. The current system isn't working very well.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68739 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:15 pm to
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So you moved the goalposts from molesters being safe to it's more cost effective
I suspect he means that society will still be safe from the molesters even though they are being imprisoned in a less costly, low security prison.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:17 pm to
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I said nothing remotely close to "Not understanding recidivism."
FFS

You did not SAY "Roger is illiterate." You DEMONSTRATED it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:17 pm to
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I suspect he means that society will still be safe from the molesters even though they are being imprisoned in a less costly, low security prison.


Going to need to build some prisons if all pedos are locked up for life.


He also said pedos were victims.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12297 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:18 pm to
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suspect he means that society will still be safe from the molesters even though they are being imprisoned in a less costly, low security prison.


Negative. We were discussing pedophiles being put in Genpop and it scared Hank. He absolutely meant they would be safer from other prisoners but I'm going to guess he will jump all over the life preserver you just tossed him
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:19 pm to
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FFS

You did not SAY "Roger is illiterate." You DEMONSTRATED it.


Youre just projecting your autism.

Death prevents recidivism.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68739 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Going to need to build some prisons if all pedos are locked up for life
Good. Build them. And build a bunch more for all of the sociopaths walking around society with RAP sheets littered with charges that were pled down for convenience's sake. Build, build build.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Going to need to build some prisons if all pedos are locked up for life
Good. Build them. And build a bunch more for all of the sociopaths walking around society with RAP sheets littered with charges that were pled down for convenience's sake. Build, build build.



Hank beleives that means you don't understand what recidivism means.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:23 pm to
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He absolutely meant they would be safer from other prisoners


In Min security, they may also get work release.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68739 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:23 pm to
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We were discussing pedophiles being put in Genpop and it scared Hank. He absolutely meant they would be safer from other prisoners but
That's a myth anyway. As I asked earlier, how many murders happen in Louisiana's prisons annually. How many are molesters?
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:25 pm to
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I'm going to guess he will jump all over the life preserver you just tossed him


His concern in this case is the offender.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12297 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:26 pm to
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Min security, they may also get work release.


And I'm sure Hank will support them working at daycares due to all the what ifs and but maybes in the world.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:31 pm to
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And I'm sure Hank will support them working at daycares due to all the what ifs and but maybes in the world.



Nah, he thinks that will be cruelty to the offenders, the temptation would be too much.

Need to protect offender.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:31 pm to
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quote:

So you moved the goalposts from molesters being safe to it's more cost effective
I suspect he means that society will still be safe from the molesters even though they are being imprisoned in a less costly, low security prison.
Given that this is almost EXACTLY what I said when I resorted to monosyllables for them, yeah.

SOS and Roger struggle with following more than one line of inquiry.

Segregating child molesters from GenPop in a high-security prison is one way of assuring that the State (prohibited from "de jure" execution by SCOTUS) is not guilty of a "de facto" execution, technically performed by other inmates. I submit that moral government should not facilitate that sort of "de facto" execution ... or even the prisoner-on-prisoner beatings that are far more common.

If we acknowledge that administrative segregation (to prevent an extra-judicial execution) is the moral obligation of the State, the very NATURE of this class of offender demonstrates that he can safely be housed in a low- or medium-security facility.

What the troglodytes seem to have trouble grasping is that NONE of this analysis turns upon any sort of "sympathy" for the child molester (or his comfort), but instead turns upon the moral/ethical obligations of a just government.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12297 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:33 pm to
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analysis turns upon any sort of "sympathy" for the child molester (or his comfort), but instead turns


Stfu groomer. You literally posted that pedophiles are victims. Now that is called sympathy for child molesters. Your words not mine.

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Given that this is almost EXACTLY what I said when I resorted to monosyllables for them, yeah.


I called it. Straight to the life preserver.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:34 pm to
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I suspect he means that society will still be safe from the molesters even though they are being imprisoned in a less costly, low security prison.

SOS and Roger struggle with following more than one line of inquiry.


Why low security?
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
2867 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:34 pm to
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What the troglodytes seem to have trouble grasping is that NONE of this analysis turns upon any sort of "sympathy" for the child molester (or his comfort), but instead turns upon the moral/ethical obligations of a just government.


It seems you are a bullshitter.

Know how to cure a pedo?

Kill his arse.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12297 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Know how to cure a pedo?

Kill his arse.


Aggiehank has already stated that he could make an argument that pedophiles are victims.
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