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re: Assuming Woodward really fired Wade to get the NCAA off the football program's back

Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by Mikethegreattiger
Member since May 2021
177 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:43 pm to
It was a WW infraction. Even with the rules of today WW broke the rules so that blows that crap out. A Coach or staff cannot pay players. So even in todays game of rules he still would have broken them.
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
457 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:58 pm to
WW is one of the dumbest coaches to ever grace Earth. Anyone that’s ever dribbled a bball and understands the game knows this. Anyone who hasn’t doesn’t have any feeling for the game Will Wade had no clue what the phrase “help defense “ means.
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
457 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:00 am to
Anyone who thinks WW was even halfway decent, rewatch the MSU vs LSU game in the tournament. The guy can’t coach his way out of a paper bag
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2380 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:19 am to
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The allegations against Wade have not been proven true. Arbitration is still ongoing. The NCAA is likely afraid of Wade suing them. There is no telling what his lawyers will uncover in discovery about other coaches, other programs, and the very unequal nature of NCAA penalties. Besides, what Wade and all successful programs have been doing for decades is now legal with NIL.

Sums up what happen. Wade lawyers go scorched earth on the NCAA if they come after him because practically every good program was doing it and the NCAA was doing nothing. Woodward f’d up firing Wade and hiring Mister Rogers. Plus with NIL it’s like arresting someone for smoking weed 5 years ago in Colorado.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
9043 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:03 am to
Woodward is a coward.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45336 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:17 am to
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what Wade and all successful programs have been doing for decades is now legal with NIL.


No it is not and you know it. I am not sure why so many of you keep saying this. Maybe by repeating it so much you think you can convince your and others.

Wade did his dirty work directly himself instead of doing what others do and having a middle man so he could distance himself from it. NIL is not set up by the coach or the school. NIL is nothing more than allowing the athlete to have a personal service contract with a business independent of the school to advertise or perform some service. Now no one denies it is bullshite and nothing more than a rich booster paying a athlete to attend a school, because is what it is. But it is still not the same as coaches paying players directly. It baffles me why so many of you are not mad at Wade. He did this to himself by being sloppy. If wade was so right in what he did answer this? Why did he agree to having contract reworked and allowing LSU to fire him if the NCAA found anything? Why didn't he challenge LSU on this issue from the get go? I will tell you why. He knew what would be eventually discovered and he basically kicked the can down the road and squeezed another year of money out of LSU. Better to be fired in 22 rather than 21. He put off getting fired immediately and gamble that maybe they would discover what he did.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37931 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:22 am to
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cmacatl13
177 posts in 9 years. LSU AD is going to run out of burner accounts before basketball season is over.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2380 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:33 am to
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NIL is not set up by the coach or the school.

Bullshite, you can’t be that naive, I’d bet my house, head coaches are heavily involved in setting up and coordinating NIL deals.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 8:34 am
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12132 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:49 am to
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What's stopping Woodward from re-hiring Wade


Pride. He thinks it's all about him.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3322 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:11 am to
So a husband can hire a guy to kill his wife, just not pull the trigger himself?? Get the fLuck outta here with that BS.

This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:13 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:17 am to
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NIL is nothing more than allowing the athlete to have a personal service contract with a business independent of the school to advertise or perform some service.

It’s cute how naive you are
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:27 am to
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bullshitee, you can’t be that naive, I’d bet my house, head coaches are heavily involved in setting up and coordinating NIL deals.


Everyone knows this but if any coach is caught on a wiretap talking about setting up the NIL deals it is still a NCAA violation. It’s literally like the only rule about it.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:29 am to
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What's stopping Woodward from re-hiring Wade now that we're officially in the age of NIL?


The fact he and a lot of people in the athletic department did not like Will Wade.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37931 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:30 am to
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So a husband can hire a guy to kill his wife, just not pull the trigger himself?
Yes, they are much more enamored with how Wade cheated than the actual cheating. It’s really a very simplistic take IMO.

I’d be much more impressed if the argument was he shouldn’t have cheated at all. As naive as it is, at least there is some moral high ground to be had.

Instead, they choose to not take issue with the act itself, just the manner in which it was taken.

I’m actually proud that Wade cared enough about LSU Basketball success that he was willing to cut checks from his wife’s checking account. That’s some dedication to the cause. Most of the “fans” that harp on Wade’s “sloppiness” don’t even watch games, so I’m not sure why they even pretend to care at all.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:33 am to
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’m actually proud that Wade cared enough about LSU Basketball success that he was willing to cut checks from his wife’s checking account. That’s some dedication to the cause. Most of the “fans” that harp on Wade’s “sloppiness” don’t even watch games, so I’m not sure why they even pretend to care at all


I’m a season ticket holder and I like Will Wade. I also don’t care if LSU cheats or not because I’m not naive I know they do. I do think he was dumb for getting caught the way he did. The head coach should never be the one talking about anything that can be misconstrued as illegal on the phone or email or text. Should be an assistant so you can play dumb when those things come out.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37931 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:40 am to
I understand the thought. I just rather cut through the bullshite of pretending it doesn’t happen. Paying college basketball players is the biggest open secret in the history of sports. John Wooden pretended he didn’t know about the massive bags of cash.

I just find it hypocritical. He didn’t cheat the right way is such a disingenuous argument to me. I understand that’s how we’ve been taught to think and treat these situations, but I’m over that bullshite.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:56 am to
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He didn’t cheat the right way


It’s not that he didn’t cheat the right way. It’s that he got caught at all and he only has himself to blame for that.

If we find out tomorrow Brian Kelly paid a player out of his personal checking account. I’m not going to be mad that he did it. I would say he is dumb and understand that LSU will get in a ton of trouble and he will deserves to be fired.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37931 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:07 am to
Again, I know I’m going against conventional thought, but the cheat smarter (don’t get caught) angle is just smoke and mirrors, and always has been.

It was created to have an illusion of cleanliness. Coach isn’t paying players, the bag man is. The whole time everyone knows what’s really going on, yet we’re still here saying the same shite.

Cheat but don’t get caught. So the cheating is okay, the getting caught is not. Do what you need to do, but make sure you jump through all of the artificially created hoops so we can pretend all is on the up and up.
Posted by PappaSwolio
tGeneral’s Army
Member since Sep 2022
901 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:12 am to
Wade will be coaching at Ole Miss. And I will be a season ticket holder. LSU is too dangerous for my kids anyway
Posted by covtgr
Covington
Member since Aug 2004
1046 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:40 am to
The minute the NCAA rules on Will Wade, if it doesn’t include a show cause, Wade should be hired back with a public apology from Scott Woodward and MM sent packing. Immediately.
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