re: Auschwitz-Birkenau was liberated by the Red Army on this day in 1945...

I worked for a farmer as a teenager who was a polish catholic. He was in dachau was tatooed and would not talk about it. Even as an idiot teenager he had my complete respect.

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Nuremberg famously had a minuscule amount of time devoted to "the holocaust". Please be specific as to what witness you are referring to? What evidence are you presenting? What proof?

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Yeah, it's called the Einsatzgruppen Trial. Their crimes were so heinous a separate trial was held. The Holocaust was more than just gassing and cremating Jews. There were specialized SS units that followed behind the Wehrmacht during Operation Barbarossa. Their job were to murder Jews, Slavs, Roma, and others to make room for Lebensraum. Whoever wasn't killed was enslaved. There is plenty of evidence of this, one of the worst being Babi Yar. When shooting wasn't fast enough they resorted to asphyxiation in trucks with the exhaust pumped into the back.

Well that changed when Germany was going through a food shortage later in the war so something had to be done. They weren't going to starve "Aryans" for feeding even people they enslaved. That's when the death factories happened.

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The million Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto?

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The Nazis themselves filmed this. There's plenty of Nazi propaganda showing the overcrowded and dilapidated conditions of the ghettos but with a twist. Goebbels himself wanted to make it seem like it was the Jews fault they lived in squalor. It was to show the German public that this is why they had to be removed from society. The truth is the Nazis were putting them in horrible conditions while telling people back home how great it was and look what they did to it.

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I worked for a farmer as a teenager who was a polish catholic. He was in dachau was tatooed and would not talk about it. Even as an idiot teenager he had my complete respect.

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I have (had) two relatives with camp number tattoos. They were married. The man was a very successful doctor in New Orleans later in life. They only ever showed me the tattoos once and it maybe they most haunting thing I’ve ever seen.

Holocaust denial will become more and more common as the witnesses die out.

A wonderful book and story that touches on a Holocaust story without just drowning you in depression - if anyone is interested - is “By the Grace of the Game.” It basically tells the story of NBA great Ernie Grunfeld. There is just an incredible story in the book of Buddy Hackett agreeing to smuggle US dollars out of Romania for Ernie’s parents. When the parents eventually emigrated to the US, the money was waited for them.

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There’s a PBS program “Bombing Auschwitz” re-airing this week that recounts the story of escapees Rudolf Vrba and Alfred Wetzler. They escaped together in early 1944.

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The book "The Escape Artist" is about Rudolf Vrba and how slowly the wheels of bureaucracy ground even though thousands were being murdered daily. He was especially upset that deportations of Hungarian Jews hadn't started yet when he escaped, but ultimately hundreds of thousands died because he couldn't get a swift - or much of any - reaction.

The bombing of the camps was a non-starter politically. If Jews (or other prisoners) were killed in bombing raids, the fallout was determined to be not worth the risk. The bombing of transport lines was determined to only likely minimally slow executions, while risking aircraft and aircrews, and neglecting military targets.

Rudolf Vrba was a frustrated and angry man.

Wait the dudes post got deleted?
Thought the videos were legit. What happened?