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Herb cant start anymore

Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4351 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:05 pm
He is killing our offense. Idk what happened but his shot and touch around the rim has disappeared.

Dyson should be starting over him
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79106 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Dyson should be starting over him



Dyson and Herb are literally the same thing right now.
Posted by NorthShoreTiger44
Madisonville
Member since Aug 2014
1368 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:09 pm to
He is MIA every possession and with Zion and BI, it’s amplified
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7687 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:09 pm to
Herb is who everyone else in the NBA thought he was.. decent defender with serious offensive limitations
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
3037 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:11 pm to
Except Dyson can shoot and defend without fouling.

Dyson should be starting.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55876 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:11 pm to
We’re 10-2 when Herb doesn’t play
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
3037 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:11 pm to
Calling him a decent defender is laughable.

He's an elite defender, who fouls alot and can't shoot for shite.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10694 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:12 pm to
The team is 14-13 when he plays and 10-2 when he doesn’t. And it hasn’t been a coincidence
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79106 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

The team is 14-13 when he plays and 10-2 when he doesn’t. And it hasn’t been a coincidence



How many of those games are with Zion and Bi and how many aren't?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Herb is who everyone else in the NBA thought he was.. decent defender
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4351 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:15 pm to
He's looking like matisse thybulle 2.0. He made 2 all defense teams and cant see the court for the sixers because he has no offensive game. Elite defense doesnt mean much if you have to play 4v5 on offense
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
20339 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:15 pm to
it feels like herb really does kill our offense at times. and i dont think the drop in defense (if there's any) between herb and dyson is worth continuing to start him
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

Dyson should be starting over him
They're essentially the same player right now. Both really good on defense and both giving nothing on offense.

Dyson started the season very well on offense knocking down shots, being aggressive and facilitating.

But for quite a while now, we've seen none of that from Dyson. He's giving us nothing on offense. Not a knock, he's 19. Just more of a fact in his play now vs before.
Posted by Pelicanus
Member since Jun 2019
651 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:16 pm to
Herb will look good when BI and Zion are on the floor.

Go get ayton and the Pels will be fine.
Posted by NorthShoreTiger44
Madisonville
Member since Aug 2014
1368 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:17 pm to
Having no presence whatsoever making if 4v5 is a tough hill to climb without BI or Z on the court
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55876 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

How many of those games are with Zion and Bi and how many aren't?
I think a decent chunk of those wins are without all 3. Herb tweaked his knee the same time BI and Z got hurt against the jazz
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4351 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

They're essentially the same player right now. Both really good on defense and both giving nothing on offense.

Dyson started the season very well on offense knocking down shots, being aggressive and facilitating.

But for quite a while now, we've seen none of that from Dyson. He's giving us nothing on offense. Not a knock, he's 19. Just more of a fact in his play now vs before.


Dyson moves the ball much better and is a way better rebounder than herb.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42968 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:18 pm to
You are going to have a hard time getting Willie to sit his pet project Herb.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55876 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Herb will look good when BI and Zion are on the floor.


How does Bi and Z make Herb better offensively? Teams leave Herb open regardless..
Posted by Paperchaser4ever
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2016
16 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:19 pm to
Unfortunately, we are playing 4 against 5 on the offensive side of the ball when Herb is playing.
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