re: We Have Given Ukraine $70B In The Last Nine Months

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The warmongers on the OT got a boner when they read this

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yall have to understand not everyone in the OT thread is a warmonger

and most are conservatives

its really simple and boils down to this

1) Do you beleive in Nato

2)do you beleive russia is a threat to national security in that they are a threat to NAto

3) if you answer the 1st two things as yes, then do you beleive stopping russia now is cheaper both in terms of dollars and american lives to stop them now or when they kept going?

personally my answer to #1 would be no, but i also understand the overall economic issues if we pulled out and russia kept going.

i personally dont liek any money going oversees or hell even sharing military tech but i know that im in the minority there, especially on leaving the UN and Nato and i understand the economic consequences short term but am willing to live with that. but if we are goign to stay in nato, the other countries should abide by the terms, specifically financially and readiness.

wiht all that being said, im very much in the minority so i want my tax dollars to atleast be used for something worthwhile.

so far we have spent less than 6% of the annual total defense budget in ukraine....and for that we have destroyed an estimated 50% of the conventional russian forces who happens to be historically our biggest geopolitical foe and current #2 behind china.

we also have caused the rest of nato to agree to spend the required amount as trump was trying to do

we also will seize and get paid back much of the money we sent so total investment is lower than 6%

also have forced china back the frick off


now with all that being said, there are 100% some issues. I dont think much of what is goign to ukraine will be stolen by US politicians but certainly will go to fund corruption and graft in eastern europe. but when we transfer the money from the seized accounts, i can 100% say i beleive much of it will be stolen by US politicians and yes that concerns me.

but in the end its pretty simple for me, if we are goign to continue to be the worlds police in certain ways, then you cant let russia just take what it wants.

if the US allowed texas to become an independent country and russia didnt like what it was saying and decided to invade, should we just let them? what if it was china invading canada...should we just let them?

i do agree this was a european problem and should have had european solutions, problem is they are weak. europe is a weak society. at some point you have to protect a countries right to exist.