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re: We Have Given Ukraine $70B In The Last Nine Months
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:26 pm to 93and99
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:26 pm to 93and99
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$70 billion dollars would pave around 56,000 miles of four lane highways in the United States.
$1.25 million per mile seems extremely low to pave 4 lane highway.
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:32 pm to lsu777
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yall have to understand not everyone in the OT thread is a warmonger
and most are conservatives
You are not conservative if you keep approving 70bil to Ukraine
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:34 pm to Cobra Tate
You're not conservative if you believe the United States should police the world. You cannot rule by military might abroad and not bring that same force home domestically. American foreign policy since the end of WW2 has been a Trotskyist's wet dream.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:39 pm to SCLibertarian
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You cannot rule by military might abroad and not bring that same force home domestically.
Ok, you wont like how that goes.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:04 pm to SCLibertarian
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You're not conservative if you believe the United States should police the world. You cannot rule by military might abroad and not bring that same force home domestically. American foreign policy since the end of WW2 has been a Trotskyist's wet dream.
hold the frick on, are you as a libertarian suggesting we bring military rule home? maybe i am confusing what you are saying
as far as the money being spent and being conservative....while i agree spending 70 billion is crazy that money was going to be spent either way between defense and foreign aide. annual foreign aide is 60 billion and the defense budget was 1.64 trillion :yak:
we have spent less than 6% of the defense budget and have destroyed the capabilities of the russian conventional force by over 50% and crippled our biggest historical(current #2 behind china) foe for decades to come.
not to mention we have 300 billion in frozen russian assetts we will be seizing when this is all over
this isnt even a policing action, its simply supplying weapons
now i have already said I think we see rampant corruption with the seized accounts. but that is a whole other issue
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:22 pm to SCLibertarian
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You're not conservative if you believe the United States should police the world. You cannot rule by military might abroad and not bring that same force home domestically. American foreign policy since the end of WW2 has been a Trotskyist's wet dream.
Yup. There really are no conservatives
And Lakesoy7 still hasnt gone to the front lines so yoh know hes a fake soldier
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:20 pm to lsu777
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he 100% wanted to reunite the balkens & caucasus areas under russian rule and official russian tv has already said they should just continue on into poland. but yea im sure he planned to just stop
You really think Putin was going to invade and take over the Balkans and Poland?
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:22 pm to lsu777
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are you as a libertarian suggesting we bring military rule home?
No, I'm suggesting that the belief that we can remake the world via military force inevitably results in a belief that the use of force is itself a good and benevolent thing, which results in a larger and more tyrannical government here at home.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:33 pm to lsu777
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hold the frick on, are you as a libertarian suggesting we bring military rule home? maybe i am confusing what you are saying
Yea you’re not getting it.
And you and the others may be neocons but you’re not conservatives.
Not by any definition.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:36 pm to Lakeboy7
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Ok, you wont like how that goes.
SC, you got Lakeboy aroused with that thought.
You can tell how his eyes lit up.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:50 pm to lsu777
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1) Do you beleive in Nato
2)do you beleive russia is a threat to national security in that they are a threat to NAto
1. Warsaw Pact/Soviets are gone. NATO should be scaled back to Barney one bullet
2. The USA is a threat to the national security of Russia - THAT IS WHY RUSSIA HAS RESPONDED IN THE WAY THEY HAVE
It is very simple and the O-T is comprised ENTIRELY of idiot warmongers incapable of understanding geopolitics.
World experts can explain this in a couple of minutes and have.
Too many psyop moron warmongers supporting what has no American interest whatsoever
Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:52 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:He very specifically said that this was not true.
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he 100% wanted to reunite the balkens & caucasus areas under russian rule and official russian tv has already said they should just continue on into poland. but yea im sure he planned to just stop
You really think Putin was going to invade and take over the Balkans and Poland?
The idiot warmongers dont seem to be able to open a functioning thought from a functioning brain.
and they threaten THEMSELVES and millions of others
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:18 pm to NCIS_76
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Zelensky leaving DC later today.
To where?
Miami?
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:41 pm to LuckyTiger
My taxes have paid for this.
I want 5 ukranian wimmen in return.
I want 5 ukranian wimmen in return.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:49 pm to LuckyTiger
For a good time, look up Russia's annual defense budget, then compare that to what the US has given Ukraine in 2022.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 11:42 pm to Eurocat
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We shouls have given them twice as much. (And so should others like the Europeans although the Baltics, Poland, Czechs, Finns have given a lot. Portugal? Not so much.).
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY?
Why should i give my tax dollars to a notoriously corrupt country?
Let me pose it another way.
If your house was being robbed daily, and your boyfriend & adopted children were being terrorized because of it.
And your political leaders were spending YOUR tax dollars for upgraded security in neighborhoods that are 200 miles away from you…. You would be cool with that??
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:23 am to mrservon
The corruption in Ukraine was from when the Russians were still in charge over there.
Since the Ukranians took over they have been changing the laws, strengthening the cops/prosecutors and chasing down the crooks.
Ukraine is a wonderful country that I have spent quite some time in and you would be surprised how much you like it. Some guys somehow Putin because he talks tough like Trump, is acutally like Trump and because Russians look a little bit like some here in the USA "we need more of that". That kind of thinking shows and incredible lack of understanding of that part of the world.
Thank you for your question.
Since the Ukranians took over they have been changing the laws, strengthening the cops/prosecutors and chasing down the crooks.
Ukraine is a wonderful country that I have spent quite some time in and you would be surprised how much you like it. Some guys somehow Putin because he talks tough like Trump, is acutally like Trump and because Russians look a little bit like some here in the USA "we need more of that". That kind of thinking shows and incredible lack of understanding of that part of the world.
Thank you for your question.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:29 am to Eurocat
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The corruption in Ukraine was from when the Russians were still in charge over there.
So Hunter was colluding with Russians and NOT Trump
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:33 am to Lakeboy7
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Ok, you wont like how that goes.
Tell us Lakesoy. How would it go?
We've already been locked up and locked down. The acting president engaged with corporations to fire unvaxxed employees. The government simply kicked them out. Our borders are completely overran.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:45 am to NPComb
Why would Bidens kid collude with Trump? Aren't they on opposite sides?
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