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Portal losses affecting depth
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:15 pm
I know these guys aren’t starters. But how do teams have depth if the 2’s and 3’s continue to constantly leave every year. I know you can grab new players in portal. But that’s new guys learning a new scheme every year. Instead of having possibly a year three guy starting, you will always have new players. Won’t this hurt the product teams are putting on field? Especially in the beginning of the season.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:19 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
They find depth the same way they lost depth, its coming for everyone
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:20 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
This is the new normal. 3rd or 4th year players sticking around and contributing as jr’s and sr’s will be rare
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:24 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
They portal giveth and the portal taketh. However LSU does very well in the portal. We will be alright
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:26 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
When kids start to realize that the grass isn’t always greener. Being a backup isn’t a bad thing but society as a whole doesn’t work for anything anymore.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:26 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
Bama has 13 players in the portal. A&M has 22. Welcome to the new normal.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:40 pm to OGtigerfan87
Not all 3rd or 4th year players are the same. Position groups are also different.
An interior offensive lineman might be good and he’s done everything right on and off the field. However, he’s also the 4th best Guard on the team. No one can blame him for leaving to get playing time elsewhere before he runs out of eligibility. Especially when he might be better than half of the other Guards in FBS.
It’s hard to replace that type of player.
An interior offensive lineman might be good and he’s done everything right on and off the field. However, he’s also the 4th best Guard on the team. No one can blame him for leaving to get playing time elsewhere before he runs out of eligibility. Especially when he might be better than half of the other Guards in FBS.
It’s hard to replace that type of player.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:43 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
I think this will be an issue for all teams moving forward. We are just feeling it more right now because of the program status Kelly inherited this team.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:47 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
It is all relative. Of course we will lose depth. Kelly is do far this year, ahead of the competition in managing the losses. We so far have not lost it at a position of great need, and we are retention is a TON better than last year when we lost two starting CBs, a potential starting RB.
I do agree, the loss of Hill and Dumerville is frustrating as they likely would've been in the rotation 2023 if we have any injuries.
I do agree, the loss of Hill and Dumerville is frustrating as they likely would've been in the rotation 2023 if we have any injuries.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:52 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
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But how do teams have depth if the 2’s and 3’s continue to constantly leave every year
The do so by working the portal that these kids are leaving for. Do you think kids go to the portal but no kids transfer in?
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:59 pm to HtxDr
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When kids start to realize that the grass isn’t always greener. Being a backup isn’t a bad thing but society as a whole doesn’t work for anything anymore.
coordinators frequently leaving means every loyal player on two teams has to learn a new scheme. Unfortunate for the loyal players that the older generation can’t stay loyal to a school.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:04 pm to ThePoo
It’s the new generation of “if I can’t play I quit ! No such thing as team concept ! Or maybe they just weren’t good enough
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:08 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
Xavier Hill, Garrett Dellinger, and Miles Frazier are all in the same classification. He wouldn't start here unless they go pro after next year or the next and he uses his Covid year. A lot of guys aren't going to chance that.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:12 pm to chaso
quote:I disagree, but I'm probably closer to their generation than your.
It’s the new generation of “if I can’t play I quit ! No such thing as team concept ! Or maybe they just weren’t good enough
The overwhelming majority of players will never sniff the NFL. If I spent two years in a system and the writing was on the wall that I'm looking at little to no playing time, I'm transferring to a place where I can play with the remaining eligibility I have.
I fault no kid for doing the same
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:13 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
The portal is a 2 way street. As we lose, we can gain. I trust BK will field a competitive team. He’s also barely had a year under his belt so I’m sure he’s still in the process of making this roster his own. In that process, players from the old guard will fall off
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:15 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
This is a major issue for us and is being discounted by just about everyone.
This team lacked depth this year and now we have far more to replace/fill in than people understand.
Look at 247 Roster Composite for this year. 247 roster composite
We had 72 players on the roster that were rated with 3 stars or above. 72! Damn near every quality team has 83-85.
Go through that list and you will see you have to drop all the way down to West Virginia to see a team that has fewer than 72.
Yes we have great talent but we lack depth big time. Now we have to replace not only the 13 legitimate players that we did not have this year, but we also have to replace the Seniors, NFL guys and the transfers.
This is a much bigger problem than just saying "everyone is facing the same problem."
No, we are starting from a much different spot than everyone else.
This team lacked depth this year and now we have far more to replace/fill in than people understand.
Look at 247 Roster Composite for this year. 247 roster composite
We had 72 players on the roster that were rated with 3 stars or above. 72! Damn near every quality team has 83-85.
Go through that list and you will see you have to drop all the way down to West Virginia to see a team that has fewer than 72.
Yes we have great talent but we lack depth big time. Now we have to replace not only the 13 legitimate players that we did not have this year, but we also have to replace the Seniors, NFL guys and the transfers.
This is a much bigger problem than just saying "everyone is facing the same problem."
No, we are starting from a much different spot than everyone else.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:36 pm to MRDEATHVALLEY85
It's close to the point that we will not have an O-line rotation next year. We'll have 5 starters and one or two backups that can rotate around during injuries.
Brian Kelly has destroyed the depth of this team!
Brian Kelly has destroyed the depth of this team!
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:42 pm to TigerFanatic99
Aren't you just a ray of sunshine . Do us a favor , pull for someone else . Geaux Tigers .
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:51 pm to deathvalleytiger10
West Virginia had 1 five star and 8 fours.
LSU had 5 5 star and 33 fours.....I dont think you could even think that is the nearest comparison to us.
We are losing some back ups, we have an awesome class coming in and will get enough portal players to make things easy. A T/G that can fill both, and a G/C that can fill both will do wonders for depth.
LSU had 5 5 star and 33 fours.....I dont think you could even think that is the nearest comparison to us.
We are losing some back ups, we have an awesome class coming in and will get enough portal players to make things easy. A T/G that can fill both, and a G/C that can fill both will do wonders for depth.
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