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Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:53 pm to
I think the vaccines are a greater risk by far than the help they provide (if any), and it was criminal that they forced healthy people and people who already had Covid to get vaccinated.

And yet, Penrod’s assessment is correct. Just because “a majority” of Covid deaths were from the vaccinated population, there’s not enough information in that factoid to tell you if the vaccine actually improved or harmed the chances of someone from dying of Covid.
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Posted by NPC
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:54 pm to
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The vaccines made them less likely to die than they otherwise would have


Wow. So true.
Posted by BlueJacket
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:00 pm to
Too bad for you that this doesn't mean what you think it means. Go learn something about statistics.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:02 pm to
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And yet, Penrod’s assessment is correct. Just because “a majority” of Covid deaths were from the vaccinated population, there’s not enough information in that factoid to tell you if the vaccine actually improved or harmed the chances of someone from dying of Covid.


What it does tell us is that the vaccine is not currently an effective means of preventing infection or serious outcome from Covid.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:33 pm to
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What it does tell us is that the vaccine is not currently an effective means of preventing infection or serious outcome from Covid.


Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Too bad for you that this doesn't mean what you think it means. Go learn something about statistics.


And too bad for you that you have reading comprehension issues. Reread the OP very carefully.

Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:44 pm to
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What it does tell us is that the vaccine is not currently an effective means of preventing infection or serious outcome from Covid.


Not very effective, and possibly not effective at all. Maybe even anti-effective.

That’s why I said it garbage and not worth the risk, considering the considerable side-effect risks.

But I’d actually be interested in knowing if the vaccine has ANY effectiveness in reducing Covid transmission or Covid death.

Either way, heads should roll for the mandates and the suppression of information.
Posted by BlueJacket
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:45 pm to
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And too bad for you that you have reading comprehension issues. Reread the OP very carefully.


I suggest you do the same. Don't read what you want it to say, think about what it actually means. Think real hard.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:53 pm to
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BlueJacket


It NEVER was a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

OK, I’m done! Now your turn!

Don't read what you want it to say, think about what it actually means. Think real hard.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:00 pm to
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But I’d actually be interested in knowing if the vaccine has ANY effectiveness in reducing Covid transmission or Covid death.


Probably in the months March through June of 2021 or so.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:09 pm to
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March 2021


Posted by BlueJacket
Member since Nov 2022
230 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:22 pm to
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Toomer Deplorable


No matter how many times you say it to yourself, it doesn't make it true. You anti-vaxxers kept the pandemic going and were dying and being hospitalized more than vaccinated. It's OK, no one was forced to get vaccinated. You made your bad choice. Facts over feelings. You're forming the conclusion before looking at the data.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:51 pm to
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You anti-vaxxers kept the pandemic going and were dying and being hospitalized more than vaccinated.


You didn’t really keep up with the data during the pandemic, didja?
Posted by BlueJacket
Member since Nov 2022
230 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:53 pm to
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You didn’t really keep up with the data during the pandemic, didja?


Absolutely did. Cite your source for your claim if you have evidence that contradicts the CDC data. Let me guess. You have stories about your brother's, uncle's, wife's, friend from work.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:59 pm to
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You're forming the conclusion before looking at the data.



That is rich coming from someone still white-knighting for these false COVID-1984 narratives.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 6:43 pm to
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CDC data




Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:04 pm to
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These are the ones who are most likely to die. The vaccines made them less likely to die than they otherwise would have,


Is that demonstrable fact or conjecture? Doesn't seem like it's possible to measure.
Posted by BlueJacket
Member since Nov 2022
230 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:26 pm to
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Toomer Deplorable


So still nothing. I didn't think so. You anti-vaxx pseudoscience people never can just provide evidence for your claims. You just deflect to something else.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:30 pm to
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The vaccines made them less likely to die


Of Covid.

The jury is still out on if it made them more likely to die of other causes.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10471 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:42 pm to
Do you understand that the most at risk populations got the vaccine right? That would make them more likely to die period, much less if they got Covid. They did potentially die from Covid, but not because of the Vax.

Statistics and context seems really hard for some of you and I am not a supporter of the vaccines.
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