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re: Rapper/rock musician/bestselling comic book writer YoungRippa59, breaks down MCU problem
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:54 pm to Roaad
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:54 pm to Roaad
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Apparently being a fan of the source material has been labeled a "red flag"
This is a top-notch podcast for anyone interested in the business side of movies, and the nate Moore episode is awesome for anyone curious about some MCU processes. Your rock musician is intentionally missing the point, and I'm guessing you are content to do the same.
The red-flag is when writers have a pre-decided, set in stone conception of a character based on nostalgic memories of reading comics as a child. He wants writers who want to find the most interesting versions of a character and most interesting stories involving the character, and work tirelessly to turn those into something that works as a movie. The red flag is nostalgia and coming in knowing exactly how you want to make the movie without doing any real due-diligence. He is not looking for people unfamiliar with the characters or comics.
Again, listen to the actual podcast, not the angerbait written in reaction to the podcast.
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:11 pm to Jay Are
I wonder if you will ever understand why you are so disliked.
"Due diligence" What an Orwellian misappropriation of reality
"Due diligence" What an Orwellian misappropriation of reality
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:52 pm to Jay Are
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The red-flag is when writers have a pre-decided, set in stone conception of a character based on nostalgic memories of reading comics as a child.
So the red flag is writers knowing the character, knowing their motivations, knowing their weaknesses. Got it.
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He wants writers who want to find the most interesting versions of a character and most interesting stories involving the character, and work tirelessly to turn those into something that works as a movie.
He wants writers who are willing to completely disregard important aspects of a character, even the very things that make that character unique and interesting, in order to create something he and/or the writer likes. Because Hollywood writers have such a stellar resume of making literary characters and stories more interesting by moving further and further away from the source material?
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The red flag is nostalgia and coming in knowing exactly how you want to make the movie without doing any real due-diligence.
Which is exactly what happens when deep knowledge of a character becomes a "red flag" and instead you decide you want to make the movie about how you think the character should be as opposed to sticking with how the character actually is since that's what's made them popular in the first place.
You're quite literally arguing for more of this:
and this:
over this:
and this:
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:23 pm to Jay Are
The rings of power show runners were huge lore guys right?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:10 am to Jay Are
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He wants writers who want to find the most interesting versions of a character and most interesting stories involving the character, and work tirelessly to turn those into something that works as a movie.
The comic, book, fable, must be deconstructed, stripped of its humanity, and restitched into a Frankenstein's monster that looks human but has the philosophical heart of Hollywood.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:39 am to Jay Are
quote:Oh, mission accomplished, then.
He wants writers who want to find the most interesting versions of a character and most interesting stories involving the character, and work tirelessly to turn those into something that works as a movie.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:48 am to Jay Are
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The red-flag is when writers have a pre-decided, set in stone conception of a character based on nostalgic memories of reading comics as a child. He wants writers who want to find the most interesting versions of a character and most interesting stories involving the character, and work tirelessly to turn those into something that works as a movie. The red flag is nostalgia and coming in knowing exactly how you want to make the movie without doing any real due-diligence. He is not looking for people unfamiliar with the characters or comics.
And this is why you get Game of Thrones season eight and the Rings of Power. This is why a perfectly cast Henry Cavill leaves The Witcher. "We had to make it modern, put our stamp on it, make something that reflects our world, see people like us on the screen..."
This attitude is how shite gets ruined.Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:08 pm to Jay Are
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The red-flag is when writers have a pre-decided, set in stone conception of a character based on nostalgic memories of reading comics as a child. He wants writers who want to find the most interesting versions of a character
You, sir, are an absolute buffoon who has no idea what you’re talking about. The problem is that the characters people love are the characters people love. They don’t need some snot-nosed SJW to dress up a piss poor creation of their own in the popular character’s skin and call it a “more interesting version”.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:00 pm to Jay Are
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Again, listen to the actual podcast, not the angerbait written in reaction to the podcast.
It would be great if these brilliant non comic book filmmakers could create something as brilliant as the Marvel Universe.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:15 pm to Jay Are
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The red-flag is when writers have a pre-decided, set in stone conception of a character based on nostalgic memories of reading comics as a child.
Ah yes. Give me less Matt Reeves, Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni and more Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson please. Subvert my expectations daddy.
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