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Some Saints tidbits from a former player

Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:38 pm
Spoke with a former Saints player the other day and he gave me some insight to the Saints organization. Some of this we already know and what’s been speculated on here.

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Payton definitely wants the chargers. said they will pay him 20 mil and he can make additional 10 in endorsements.


I believe Mcvey makes around $18 so this is reasonable. Payton to an AFC team is the best scenario and Skylene can enjoy the glamor of LA. It also allows Payton more commercial opportunities which we are seeing more and more coaches take advantage of.

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Doesn’t think Gayle will fire allen even if they went 3-14 but said she will make him fire ppl on his staff like OC


Honestly this is the most disheartening news because I want Allen gone. He is who he is. Firing coordinators is just delaying the inevitable.

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It never crossed Loomis’ mind that they could give the eagles a top pick when they made the trade


This adds more fuel to the fire that Loomis needs to go. Every year we see teams that are supposed playoff locks stumble. The Rams won a Super Bowl and now would be picking top 6 (if they didn’t trade to Lions). Such an awful gamble.


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Future QB obviously not on roster but thinks we may have to stick with one next year because of lack of options and cap


I’ve said on here that I’ve made my peace that Dalton comes back for another year. It sucks but it’s just the mess we are in. Or maybe let it ride with Taysom one final time?


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Penning should be back this week but may not start. Should be getting guys like Roby back in a week or two. Unsure about Lattimore. Ribs are fine but the kidney is still bruised


Would be great to see what we have in Penning. If he’s half as good a rookie as Olave then we have two young pieces to build on.


Anyway, that’s it.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Payton definitely wants the chargers. said they will pay him 20 mil and he can make additional 10 in endorsements.


Chargers sitting at 5-5

remaining schedule

@ Cardinals
@ Raiders
vs Dolphins
vs Titans
@ Colts
vs Rams
@ Broncos


Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10743 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Payton definitely wants the chargers.


This makes the most sense for everyone involved as time goes on.

Payton gets his QB to go along with Ekeler & Keenan Allen. Chargers give up at best a mid 1st round pick for an offensive minded coach with extensive playoff experience
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5874 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Spoke with a former Saints player the other day and he gave me some insight to the Saints organization.

Was this the same one that said Honeybadger wasn’t signing here.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Was this the same one that said Honeybadger wasn’t signing here.


I wish he’d have been right
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Payton definitely wants the chargers


well its the only place that gives him everything he wants and a team ready to go with a good QB

quote:

Doesn’t think Gayle will fire allen even if they went 3-14 but said she will make him fire ppl on his staff like OC


well that sucks but at least pete will finally be gone. bad thing is DA had pete as his 1st and only choice so who knows who he has as a backup choice.

we all know DA is not a HC so can he, or would he, hire an OC /head coach to do his job for him? thats the million dollar question mark

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It never crossed Loomis’ mind that they could give the eagles a top pick when they made the trade

doesnt matter if its a top 5 or mid round pick, you cant give up your first rounder when its undeniable the team needs a full overhaul on both sides of the ball

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I’ve said on here that I’ve made my peace that Dalton comes back for another year.


dalton is doing great, its not his fault if the rest of the team sucks, the game plans suck, the play calling sucks, and the coaching sucks.
drew brees, in his hay day, couldnt do any better of a job than dalton is doing, and with less injuries and just half decent coaching, we could have been in the playoffs this year, all because of dalton

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Penning should be back this week


the injuries are killing us, as soon as we can get some starters back on the field, we will be putting up 30+ points a game again
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28738 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 1:12 pm to
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drew brees, in his hay day, couldnt do any better of a job than dalton is doing


bullshite...
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 1:22 pm to
former saints player

k
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10498 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 1:29 pm to
I would like a hell of alot more for Payton other than a mid first rd pick
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27355 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 1:38 pm to
I don't trust dennis allen to make any hires much less an oc.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9026 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 2:08 pm to
He won’t get a good OC knowing he’s pretty much a lame duck getting fired when the season is over.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

He won’t get a good OC knowing he’s pretty much a lame duck getting fired when the season is over.




thats what i am expecting as well, maybe another washed up old OC who has to be begged to come here and has no desire to really succeed any more, so we will just get another pete carmichael clone
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

former saints player

k


it might be bobby hebert he is talking about
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28918 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 2:21 pm to
Some posters here get butthurt when others talk to former players but it’s really not that hard in New Orleans
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64539 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 2:24 pm to
Penning is going to be a good one.
CSP wanting the bolts is the worst kept secret around.
Not firing DA can be a good owner move. Unless their is a stud coach for hire it gives another year to clear cap.
As to this year...we thought we had a shot. Didn't work out so let's see the reset. If any lol.


Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16497 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Honestly this is the most disheartening news because I want Allen gone. He is who he is. Firing coordinators is just delaying the inevitable.

As much as it sucks, it is the typical order of operations. Just a bad year, it's a rebuild. Then replace coordinators. Then get rid of HC. Sometimes the 3rd step is delayed a year if a new QB is taken, give the HC a year with his guy.

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Not firing DA can be a good owner move. Unless their is a stud coach for hire it gives another year to clear cap.

Been discussed in many other threads. Will be difficult to draw in a top guy when you're in cap hell, need a QB, and have no first round pick (although may get one once SP is traded). A good HC won't let 1 of those things deter them, but to have all 3 as an issue gets you a desperate retread at best.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Some posters here get butthurt when others talk to former players but it’s really not that hard in New Orleans


i was ragging him not you

but in general, a lot of people like to make up BS about having inside sources so its not something that can just be taken on faith as facts
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28918 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 3:28 pm to
I know. I was agreeing with you

Though it wasn’t Bobby
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6846 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 3:38 pm to
[quote]drew brees, in his hay day, couldnt do any better of a job than dalton is doing,[/quot

My God, you’re an idiot.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Vinny V
Kenna Brah
Member since Jun 2011
3839 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

This adds more fuel to the fire that Loomis needs to go. Every year we see teams that are supposed playoff locks stumble. The Rams won a Super Bowl and now would be picking top 6 (if they didn’t trade to Lions). Such an awful gamble.


A gamble is what the draft is but also this is hindsight now. Most people including national media thought the saints were nfc contenders. Everyone was excited and we desperately needed wr help. He’s a legit stud who may be oroty. Don’t think you can really fault “didn’t think it would be near a top pick”
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