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Why were air defense missiles pointed at Poland in the first place?

Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:51 am
I mean, when I was a kid with my bb gun I didnt put the bottle I was shooting at in front of the house, I shot so that if I missed it fell harmlessly.

And they have attempted to shoot down hundreds of missiles, and this time it suddenly goes into Poland?
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:52 am to
I would think SAM would target incoming missiles or planes. You don’t target land.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:56 am to


Depending on where the Russian missile came from, there are a lot of areas where a Ukrainian defense missile could have originated from, missed its target, and crossed into Poland.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:56 am to
It was on purpose. And it just so happens to hit two poor Polish citizens. Not crash in a field of desolate eastern Poland?

Nice try Zelensky.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:58 am to
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Why were air defense missiles pointed at Poland in the first place?

Jesus fricking christ.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:00 am to
Some of you just have no idea how things work lol but continue to spread BS about things you don’t know about, like it’s a known fact.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:08 am to
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Depending on where the Russian missile came from, there are a lot of areas where a Ukrainian defense missile could have originated from, missed its target, and crossed into Poland.
I THINK that most of these counter-missiles are fired from BEHIND the cruise missile target and then home-in on the heat signature of the cruise missile.

Assume that a Russian missile is fired from the vicinity of Kursk or Rostov. It crosses Ukraine, headed westward for L'viv. As it nears L'viv, a counter missile is fired at it (from behind). If the counter missile HITS the cruise missile, debris from BOTH continue westward and may well land in Poland. If the counter missile MISSES the cruise missile, the counter missile continues westward and may well land in Poland.

It MAY be possible to hit and destroy that Rostov-to-L'viv cruise missile if you fire your counter missile head-on or from either the north or the south (each of which would be less likely to pepper Poland), but I think that your chances of actually HITTING the cruise missile and saving lives in L'viv is MUCH lower using that trajectory.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 10:10 am
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:10 am to
If what you are saying holds some validity why is a Russian missile heading to Poland. I'll wait.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:11 am to
Aggie knows missiles like Joe does.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:15 am to
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If what you are saying holds some validity why is a Russian missile heading to Poland. I'll wait.

How is that your take away from his comment?

If a Russian missile is heading towards Lviv or points NNW of Lviv from the ESE, and a Ukrainian SAM battery located anywhere south or east of Lviv attempts to intercept, it runs the risk of an interceptor missile missing its target and ending up travelling towards Poland.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:15 am to
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If what you are saying holds some validity why is a Russian missile heading to Poland. I'll wait.
The Russian cruise missile would be on a nearly-perfect westward course from anywhere in Russia between Kursk and Rostov. If it is aimed at Ukrainian cities such as L'viv, Lutsk or Kovel, Poland is directly beyond the intended target (on the same course).

I suppose we could be assured that debris will never fall on Poland if the Russians are kind-enough to launch all of their cruise missiles southbound from Belarus, such that the debris would fall SOUTH of the target, rather than WEST of the target, but (thus far) Russia does not seem to be firing missiles from Belarus.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:18 am to
Why was zelensky lying about the accidental missile strike?

I have no doubt that it was just an accident... but zelensky took an obvious accident, and falsely claimed others launched that Poland strike. He took an accident that no one would blame Ukraine for, and attempted to turn it into a false flag. Had everyone trusted his bullshite, it could've set fire to the whole world.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:20 am to
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Why was zelensky lying about the accidental missile strike?


Because he wants more support. The same thing he has been doing since February.

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but zelensky took an obvious accident, and falsely claimed others launched that Poland strike.

And no one anywhere took him seriously.
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. He took an accident that no one would blame Ukraine for, and attempted to turn it into a false flag. Had everyone trusted his bullshite, it could've set fire to the whole world.


BREAKING: Wartime leader engages in hyperbole and propaganda.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:21 am to
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Why was zelensky lying about the accidental missile strike?

I have no doubt that it was just an accident... but zelensky took an obvious accident, and falsely claimed others launched that Poland strike. He took an accident that no one would blame Ukraine for, and attempted to turn it into a false flag. Had everyone trusted his bullshite, it could've set fire to the whole world.


Oh he jumped the gun, for sure. In his attempts to rally other countries to his cause, he attempted to use the incident to his advantage. We don't know if he was lying or just ran with that narrative before knowing any facts.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:24 am to
For a brief period, our media took the Ukraine propaganda seriously.

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:28 am to
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We don't know if he was lying or just ran with that narrative before knowing any facts.



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Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3935 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:37 am to
so share your facts then dipshit

frick, even Biden has come out and said it doesn't appear to be Russian rockets
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:39 am to
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Oh he jumped the gun, for sure. In his attempts to rally other countries to his cause, he attempted to use the incident to his advantage. We don't know if he was lying or just ran with that narrative before knowing any facts.




To believe the tripe you just posted, one would have to be stupid or dishonest.

What in the everloving FK has Zelensky or any other Politician done to earn the benefit of the doubt?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:42 am to
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Oh he jumped the gun, for sure. In his attempts to rally other countries to his cause, he attempted to use the incident to his advantage.
I agree.

My concern is his unwillingness to admit to having made a mistake and to admit that everyone from the US to Poland is probably assessing the matter correctly.
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
1116 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:57 am to
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Why were air defense missiles pointed at Poland in the first place?
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