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Was Charles Manson happy to be thought of as guilty?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:54 pm
I’m not saying he was innocent.
But theoretically, if he was, did he really want to be found guilty so that he could become the infamous modern boogeyman in America’s psyche? Was his image a manipulation?
It is an interesting rabbit hole. I would like to hear recordings or see videos of how he interacted with his followers before the crimes.
What level of power could Manson have achieved with a more ‘proper’ upbringing? The Presidency?
What percentage of our population could assemble similar group of devoted followers in less that 2 years?
But theoretically, if he was, did he really want to be found guilty so that he could become the infamous modern boogeyman in America’s psyche? Was his image a manipulation?
It is an interesting rabbit hole. I would like to hear recordings or see videos of how he interacted with his followers before the crimes.
What level of power could Manson have achieved with a more ‘proper’ upbringing? The Presidency?
What percentage of our population could assemble similar group of devoted followers in less that 2 years?
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 8:00 pm
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:56 pm to weagle99
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What percentage of our population could assemble similar group of devoted followers in less that 2 years?
The percentage with the good drugs.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:56 pm to weagle99
Or
And hear me out
He was just a murderous cult leader
And hear me out
He was just a murderous cult leader
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:57 pm to weagle99
"Ok, I killed everybody since day one. I murdered em all.
I'm God and I killed everybody. Now what?"
I'm God and I killed everybody. Now what?"
Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:58 pm to Caraway Rye
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He was just a murderous cult leader
Name 5 others without looking.
Somehow this dude became embedded in our nation’s consciousness. Why?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:09 pm to weagle99
Jim Jones, David Koresch, Marshall Applewhite, L. Ron Hubbard, Anthony Fauci
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:14 pm to weagle99
Read Chaos by Tom O’Neill, he lays it out pretty well. It’s definitely not the story you’d see in Helter Skelter.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:15 pm to weagle99
Manson was happy whenever he got attention.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:17 pm to weagle99
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What percentage of our population could assemble similar group of devoted followers in less that 2 years?
Do you even Covid bro?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:33 pm to weagle99
Can't really answer your question, but when I worked at Folsom St, we had some guards transferred from Corcoran where Manson was incarcerated as was Sirhan Sirhan.
They said during his one hour yard break each day, they had to keep four guards at each corner of his yard enclosure just to keep him alive lest some inmate would try to make a name for himself by being the one who took out Manson.
They also claimed that he wouldn't have last five minutes in general population, and was in fact a scared shitless little man.
They said during his one hour yard break each day, they had to keep four guards at each corner of his yard enclosure just to keep him alive lest some inmate would try to make a name for himself by being the one who took out Manson.
They also claimed that he wouldn't have last five minutes in general population, and was in fact a scared shitless little man.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:45 pm to Amadeo
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They also claimed that he wouldn't have last five minutes in general population, and was in fact a scared shitless little man.
I have watched many of his interviews, and the above could be true for sure.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:08 pm to weagle99
This sounds like an OweO thread
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:28 pm to weagle99
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Was Charles Manson happy to be thought of as guilty?
Every interview I've watched he seemed incredibly bitter at the way he was treated by the justice system.
He always denied having anything to do with the Tate murder but admits killing a guy at the ranch.
It makes it hard to understand what he's saying because sometimes he speaks from an external point of view and how society sees him. "Yeah I'm a murderer, I'm the devil, that's what the world needed me to be and that's what I became". He seems to be defending himself in a sarcastic way that did nothing to help his cause.
I don't believe he's being literal in those moments but explaining why he was railroaded and not given a fair trial (in his eyes).
According to him, due to the high profile and gruesome nature of the killings, the public wasn't satisfied with the culprits being just a few LSD burnouts. Society needed a bigger villain worthy of the crime. So they made him out to be a Satan-worshiping cult leader using drugs to mind control his minions into starting a race war.
He undoubtedly needed to be locked up. He was too crazy to be on the street and he admittedly murdered a guy at the ranch. But it does seem fricked up he spent his entire life in prison for murders and he was never at the crime scene.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:57 pm to dbeck
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He undoubtedly needed to be locked up. He was too crazy to be on the street and he admittedly murdered a guy at the ranch. But it does seem fricked up he spent his entire life in prison for murders and he was never at the crime scene.
Being at the crime scene isn't a criteria is it? People that hire contract killers are almost never at the crime scene, but they get convicted all the time. Manson was a weirdo with no redeeming qualities to speak of, but for some reason he held a strange sway over his followers. Some of them remained devoted to him for decades after he was locked up.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:11 pm to weagle99
From what I recall he never admitted to anything
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:16 pm to weagle99
Before his trial, probably not.
After it, probably so.
After it, probably so.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:16 pm to Rossberg02
CIA Guinea pig.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:19 pm to weagle99
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Was Charles Manson happy to be thought of as guilty?
I don't think he gave a shite one way or another but to hear him tell it. He didn't do anything wrong.
I think he denied until his dying day that he told anyone to commit those murders.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:20 pm to Caraway Rye
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He was just a murderous cult leader
Who did he kill?
I'll wait
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:21 pm to Tupelo
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for some reason he held a strange sway over his followers.
I wonder if the general public was so afraid or fascinated with him because on some level they wondered if they could have been swayed to follow him also
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