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Medical examiners pushed to label COVID as cause of death on death certificates
Posted on 10/1/22 at 8:50 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 8:50 am
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In Massachusetts, the state Department of Public Health asked medical examiners if the person died with a positive virus test, to consider COVID as a cause of death.
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Why would a state department of public health instruct medical examiners do this?
Two reasons: To get federal funds for the state To encourage people to get the shots
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If you are a “fact checker” or a member of the mainstream media and want to verify this is true, use the contact me link. The death records are the ultimate proof this is happening. There are cases where the listed causes of death don’t match the real cause of death. It’s objective evidence
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:01 am to Placekicker
This is a simple issue that I explained mathematically two years ago. See below.
Let’s say your covid tests return 5% false positives. If 20% of the population, of say a hundred million person country, have covid then the tests will show 24 million people with covid instead of the 20 million who actually have it. It’s a significant error, but really it’s no big deal - 20 million instead of 24 million doesn’t change much.
However, if the infection rate drops to 2% the tests are now showing 6.9 million folks with covid, instead of the 2 million who actually have it. That is a radical error, which could affect policies. And the lower the infection rate goes the higher is the error.
The same math works to show the misdiagnoses of death due to actual covid cases who died of other causes. As time progresses, and fewer people are dying of covid, these misdiagnoses begin to be the story. During the pandemic these two phenomena were taking place but didn’t really matter. Today they are dominating the statistics.
ETA: If covid disappears entirely, but they don’t stop testing, then they will always show a substantial amount of deaths from a disease that doesn’t even exist anymore.
Let’s say your covid tests return 5% false positives. If 20% of the population, of say a hundred million person country, have covid then the tests will show 24 million people with covid instead of the 20 million who actually have it. It’s a significant error, but really it’s no big deal - 20 million instead of 24 million doesn’t change much.
However, if the infection rate drops to 2% the tests are now showing 6.9 million folks with covid, instead of the 2 million who actually have it. That is a radical error, which could affect policies. And the lower the infection rate goes the higher is the error.
The same math works to show the misdiagnoses of death due to actual covid cases who died of other causes. As time progresses, and fewer people are dying of covid, these misdiagnoses begin to be the story. During the pandemic these two phenomena were taking place but didn’t really matter. Today they are dominating the statistics.
ETA: If covid disappears entirely, but they don’t stop testing, then they will always show a substantial amount of deaths from a disease that doesn’t even exist anymore.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 9:03 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:19 am to Placekicker
For what it's worth, no one has ever told me anything about how I fill out death certificates, and I've only used COVID as a cause of death on the ones who absolutely died from it.
I did not list it where it did not contribute.
I did not list it where it did not contribute.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:21 am to Placekicker
Welcome to 2020
Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:35 am to Hopeful Doc
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For what it's worth, no one has ever told me anything about how I fill out death certificates, and I've only used COVID as a cause of death on the ones who absolutely died from it. I did not list it where it did not contribute.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe you have the last say in the process designed specifically to report Covid deaths. Submitted death certificates go through the “Death Certificate Matching” process whereby some government healthcare bureaucrat reviews what the doctors/hospitals have submitted and change Cause of Death if there has been a positive test for Covid within 4 weeks of death, or even if 2 or more Covid symptoms are found in the records - shortness of breath, cough, etc.
This is how we got large dumps of Covid deaths on specific days in the reporting. In AZ I think it was Tuesdays that the health department dumped the prior week’s Death Certificate Matching haul into the reporting system and we’d see hundreds of newly reported Covid deaths magically appear for deaths that occurred weeks and even months prior.
This is also how, for example, a murder suicide (by firearm) in Colorado went down as two Covid deaths, and how George Floyd is actually a Covid death.
I don’t know if the program is still being run but that’s how it worked when Covid was being championed by gov’t health.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:35 am to Placekicker
Worked for over 2 years
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:14 am to Hopeful Doc
Doc,based on what? a positive pcr? or primary diagnosis.PCR tests are BS,there is no covid,..infuenza a/b maybe.if death happened in a hospital and remdesivir and vent.administered they were poisoned
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:19 am to Placekicker
Extra $$$ for the hospitals and states when they treated a COVID patient....follow the bucks and you will always get your answer.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:21 am to Hopeful Doc
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For what it's worth, no one has ever told me anything about how I fill out death certificates, and I've only used COVID as a cause of death on the ones who absolutely died from it. I did not list it where it did not contribute.
Ok fauci
You’re probably gonna tell us to get another booster next
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:42 am to Penrod
Your analysis is spot on.
I don't know why anybody is down voting you.
The fact that false positives should remain largely unchanged regardless of real infection is a great point.
I don't know why anybody is down voting you.
The fact that false positives should remain largely unchanged regardless of real infection is a great point.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:46 am to Privateer 2007
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Your analysis is spot on. I don't know why anybody is down voting you.
Agreed.
I usually downvote Penrod for all things Covid, but not this. His point is valid.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:01 am to Placekicker
People were reporting this from the get go. I.e. motorcycle crash fatality but posi test? Marked Covid death.
Insert ya dont say gif
Insert ya dont say gif
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:10 am to Placekicker
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