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It’s Not Crazy To Think Biden Sabotaged Nord Stream To Deepen US Involvement In Ukraine
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:33 am
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It seems to me unlikely that Russia blew them up for the simple reason that doing so removed Moscow’s one non-nuclear strategic lever over western Europe. If the point was to communicate, “Germany will freeze this winter,” why not just shut off the pipeline and let the world know that Russia had done it?
Far more likely, I think, is that U.S. special forces did it on orders from the White House. Tucker Carlson floated this idea on Fox News earlier this week and was roundly mocked for it by the likes of The Washington Post’s Aaron Blake, among others. But the theory cannot be so easily dismissed — not least because, as Carlson and others noted after the sabotage, Biden himself said back in February that if Russia invaded Ukraine, there would no longer be a Nord Stream 2, that “we will bring an end to it.”
To understand why the Biden administration would take such a drastic step, we need to understand something that has been true about the Democrats for nearly two decades, and certainly since the administration of Barack Obama: They tend to view all U.S. foreign policy as primarily an instrument of domestic politics. From their opportunistic opposition to the Iraq war going into the 2006 midterms, to Obama’s policies on Iran and the Arab Spring and especially Russia, Democrats have come to calibrate their responses to events abroad through a domestic partisan lens.
American foreign policy is for them a means to an end that has mostly to do with gaining and retaining power in Washington. Think of the now infamous “Russia Reset,” when in March 2009 then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with a giant red plastic “reset” push-button, a symbol — albeit a botched one, the button was mislabeled with the Russian word for “overcharged” — meant above all to be a repudiation of President George W. Bush’s Russia policy, which called for missile defense installations in eastern Europe that Obama promptly canceled in the name of the “reset.” For Obama, who ran for and won office as an anti-Iraq war candidate, Russia policy was less about U.S. or European security and all about showcasing to his domestic supporters just how unlike his predecessor he was.
The Russo-Ukrainian war is no different. Facing a historic midterm wipeout and the loss of Congress, it isn’t hard to see why, with November barreling down on us, the Biden administration would choose this moment to escalate in a way that draws NATO into the war as a way to rescue the president’s failing administration. Biden, in this scenario, becomes a war president. How much easier and more plausible it would be to then blame the tanking economy and rising prices on Putin and Russia? Easier, too, to denounce Republicans who oppose U.S. involvement as traitors to democracy — something Democrats already do with far less provocation.
More at the Federalist
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:34 am to GumboPot
I agree with my anti-war liberal sista.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:35 am to Bunk Moreland
I mean he hasn't exactly been acting rationally
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:36 am to GumboPot
You pick some interesting hills to die on
Just remember that you got duped by Qanon so maybe you aren't as perceptive as you think
Just remember that you got duped by Qanon so maybe you aren't as perceptive as you think
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:36 am to GumboPot
I think it's more likely than not.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:36 am to GumboPot
I wish brandon would restart the draft and send me to Ukraine so I could get some purpose in my life and possibly a refugeegf instead of spending another 40 years in the wage cage until some democrat shoots me
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:37 am to Powerman
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Just remember that you got duped by Qanon
You are making things up.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:37 am to Powerman
Dims be stupid. You just make Bunks point for him!
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:38 am to GumboPot
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It’s Not Crazy To Think Biden Sabotaged Nord Stream To Deepen US Involvement In Ukraine
It’s just such a dumb proposition.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:39 am to GumboPot
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You are making things up.
You were all up in the big Q thread
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:40 am to Bunk Moreland
I already explained the simple reason Russia would. Same reason they concocted the bullshite "NATO" justification for invasion.
Just look at how successful the "NATO" justification is on this board alone.
Just look at how successful the "NATO" justification is on this board alone.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:42 am to Decatur
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It’s just such a dumb proposition.
I'm willing to entertain the idea of Putin blowing up the NS pipeline. I'm also willing to entertain the idea of the West/US/NATO blowing up the pipeline.
All the current evidence points to the US sabotaging the pipeline.
What evidence to you have to rule any one party in or out? Or do you just believe our IC carte blanche?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:43 am to Powerman
Starting to think that you are a shill.
Your rhetoric awfully does sound like a psyop agent.
Your rhetoric awfully does sound like a psyop agent.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:43 am to GumboPot
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All the current evidence points to the US sabotaging the pipeline.
There is 0 evidence
You're just believing what you want to believe
You might ask yourself why exactly do you want to believe it
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:43 am to GumboPot
Brennan and Natasha Bertrand lied to us on TV for three years over Russia collusion. When I see them make an accusation now, I assume the opposite. Call me crazy.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:43 am to Powerman
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You were all up in the big Q thread
Yeah, so? It was an good and productive thread in terms of entertainment.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:44 am to Powerman
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There is 0 evidence
Ahhh ok. You’re a western propagandist. Good to know comrade.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:44 am to the_truman_shitshow
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Starting to think that you are a shill.
Your rhetoric awfully does sound like a psyop agent.
Yeah...I'm a paid shill that's been posting here for 18 years...makes perfect sense
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:45 am to ShinerHorns
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Ahhh ok. You’re a western propagandist. Good to know comrade.
Well....where is the evidence?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:46 am to the_truman_shitshow
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Powerman
Starting to think that you are a shill.
Your rhetoric awfully does sound like a psyop agent.
Oh lord what is this place coming to?
The brain rot is real.
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