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Anyone have insight on how high mortgage rates will go?

Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:52 am
Posted by shoelessjoe
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:52 am
Started building in February and lumber was the issue. Now lumber is down and interest rates have no sign of slowing down. Can I expect to have a 9% interest rate by the time this is over? Do any bankers think it will go down in 2023? Any insight and help is much appreciated. Anyone that knows who I can get a great rate with? Hoping to be finished in November.
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:07 pm to
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could get as high as 18.5%, based on historical peaks.


Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Anyone have insight on how high mortgage rates will go?





Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:16 pm to
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18.5%, based on historical peaks.


Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:23 pm to
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Anyone have insight on how high mortgage rates will go?



All the way to the top.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:12 pm to
If anyone had this information they would be the wealthiest human on the planet.
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 1:54 pm to
8% by year end depending on the area. I wouldn’t be a bit shocked to hit 9% by April
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:12 pm to
My guess right now? 10-ish (and that may be pushing it).
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:58 pm to
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how high mortgage rates will go?


There's a direct correlation with how retarded the Fed wants to be in the time between now and when you lock your loan. Just a little advice: anybody (even in the industry) that talks about rates next year with any degree of certainty is not somebody you should trust.

Just for reference loans funding right now are still 5-5.5%
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:24 pm to
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Just for reference loans funding right now are still 5-5.5%
Have you checked today? I had multiple lenders call me yesterday telling me theirs spiked up
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:25 pm to
Two lenders for conventional loans where quoting me in the 7s today.
Posted by Great Plains Tiger
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:30 pm to
At least as high as the inflation rate. Whatever that may be….
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15615 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Two lenders for conventional loans where quoting me in the 7s today.
I had one still at 6.75, 6.375 for FHA if I remember correctly
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:41 pm to
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if I remember correctly


nobody is holding their breath
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:45 pm to
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nobody is holding their breath
I’m old, admittedly counting on my memory isn’t the safest bet ever.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:51 pm to
Yeah, funny enough we've been talking about revenue optimzation stuff where I work today.

I'm talking about street prices. Those are lender specific prices they are quoting you that include the branch margin and the corporate margin and all of the fees associated with it, and then of course the borrower specific attributes. So in other words they might not be competitive versus the aggregate market but maybe they are in your area. I can't imagine high demand for that loan on the secondary market which is why I'm struggling with how high they can realistically go. But ignore people saying 18% when they are trying to answer your question
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:54 pm to
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But ignore people saying 18% when they are trying to answer your question
My first mortgage was 17%, I bought 4 points to get it to 13%.

I don’t think it’ll get that high again, but I don’t have to imagine what it’d be like. I lived it.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Can I expect to have a 9% interest rate by the time this is over?


Yes. At least.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11301 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:39 pm to
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My first mortgage was 17%, I bought 4 points to get it to 13%.


Yeah, I understand that but you're talking about basically two entirely different industries at that point.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15615 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Yeah, I understand that but you're talking about basically two entirely different industries at that point.
Oh I know, I don’t begin to understand the secondary market. I deal mainly in the (for lack of a better word) primary with the buyer/lender. Most of the time I’m making those introductions.
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