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re: Michael Burry: The white collar employment bubble is bursting right before our eyes

Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:24 am to
Posted by Cajunhawk81
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:24 am to
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frick, I'm almost 40.


Exhibit B
Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:25 am to
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It's a giant law firm. A bunch of work has to be done to research cases. Lots of cold calling, interviews, vetting experts, etc. One department has to get their work done by a deadline so the next department can meet theirs.


That makes sense.

FWIW I am only speaking in this thread about my experience with my employees over 7 years and to our industry. It's fairly easy for me to outline their jobs and my expectations and let them do their jobs. They call me for anything they can't handle alone.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:26 am to
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Why do you thing China positions themselves to be the biggest manufacturing center in the world? They know making stuff is important.


China is pretty much done as the manufacturing center of the world. Between the west decoupling over their covid lockdowns, geopolitical concerns, and the population bomb, China will cease to be the workshop of the world in the very near future.

The US is going to bring back as much as they can, a lot will go to Mexico, and maybe other Latin American countries, but it'll have to be re-located to more stable spheres of influence.

SE Asia and Asia in general is totally fooked in the coming years and a lot of their younger generations are going to be blindsided by the collapse given prosperity from the teet of globalism has been all they've known. Their normal was always abnormal.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:27 am
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:26 am to


Do you even know what a zoomer is?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:27 am to
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That is easily done from home with results!



I am 50/50 on it. I guess it depends on the position. If it is a task-based job it's going to be a little harder to show ambition. If it is a job outlined where you have some freedom to perform and go above then yes I agree.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:29 am to
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It is funny that these tech giants created these adult daycares with slides, sleeping areas, game rooms, etc and are now against WFH.


Also ironic to see companies like Facebook bitch about people wanting to work from home when the entire business of Facebook is building a world that isn't located in the physical space.

The WFH battle seems to be most intense with the Silicon Valley tech firms.


Make billions from digitizing everything and get pissed when people want to expand their digital life to work.


My take on WFH, is we should allow as much WFH as possible, but I think there's a lot of people who have no business working from home that are whining about not being able to wfh.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:30 am
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:32 am to
Silicon Valley also has some of the highest RE costs in the country/world. It was smart to have HQ there during the tech boom but people across the country can code now. No reason to be paying someone 300k to do basic code and force the to work in San Francisco. You cns pay the same guy a quarter of that and they can do it in their mother's basement in Shreveport and probably do it better.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:33 am
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:32 am to
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Whose smugness?


There is a lot of it out there. Many folks complaining about returning to work because they "have no time for self care" or want to take naps, check the mail, etc... Want to wear yoga pants and sweats all day, not have to commute.

I've worked from home for years. I'm in a sales-managerial role that takes me all over the country and sometimes outside. There is no office to go to. I resell stuff that is made in ten different places.

There are huge pros and huge cons. I hate not being able to look my coworkers in the eye once a week and read their body language without a flight and a few nights in a hotel. You think office politics are petty when folks are all in the same room, but they can be way worse when we never see each other.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:33 am to
Have you heard of zoom.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:33 am to
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My take on WFH, is we should allow as much WFH as possible, but I think there's a lot of people who have no business working from home that are whining about not being able to wfh.


This is how I feel.

I also don't want to work WFH forever, personally. It just works the best for my life these days. In 5-7 years or so, I won't mind at all being back in an office.

I think our world is technologically advanced enough that it just makes zero sense to force people into an office "just because". If you can retain a good worker if it means letting them WFH and being able to pick their kid up at 3 from school while saving $1,000/month on childcare....then that is a no-brainer.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:34 am
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:34 am to
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Do you even know what a zoomer is?


Exhibit C
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:37 am to
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frick, I'm almost 40.


Live look at wadewilson rn:

Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36789 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:38 am to
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Exhibit C
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What are you going on about?
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:38 am to
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?

What are you going on about?


Exhibit D...eez Nuts
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36789 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:39 am to


He called me a zoomer.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36789 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:39 am to
Are you ill?
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7959 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:40 am to
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He called me a zoomer.


yea. The Boomers finally learned about Zoomers and now everyone younger than them is a Zoomer.
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:41 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:41 am to
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I am 50/50 on it. I guess it depends on the position. If it is a task-based job it's going to be a little harder to show ambition. If it is a job outlined where you have some freedom to perform and go above then yes I agree.


At what point does it stop being about ambition and more about management like you wanting free labor?

Folks don’t have a problem being ambitious. Folks do have a problem with masking getting overworked and underpaid as “going over and above”.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61513 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:41 am to
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I think our world is technologically advanced enough that it just makes zero sense to force people into an office "just because".


I think what a lot of companies are beginning to realize, even the tech companies, is that you really can't fully digitize the equivalent of in-person contact and interaction.

Even with corporations that rely on video-chat services for their product like multi-billion dollar news networks you'll see live feeds freeze and glitch.


We have a lot of tech to do a lot more in terms of working with others via WFH, but it's obvious it doesn't replace everything you get from working in the office. Even companies like Google and Facebook are admitting this. It stifles creativity and your ability to work off others when coming up with solutions if your job is in that sphere....


A code monkey? Wfh

A legal consultant? Wfh

Accountant? Wfh

Data analysis? Wfh unless you're building some sort of data analysis tool which requires teamwork.


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