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Vice CNO testified that unvaxxed SEALs would cause Navy "immediate harm" now exposed...
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:37 pm
... as a fraud under deposition.
Fox News
Under deposition by the SEAL's legal team in June, however, Lescher admitted...
This clown's testimony to the Supreme Court back in March contributed to many able and willing sailors with sincere convictions to be removed from their jobs as part of DOD's Vax harassment package to force them to comply. The admission that HIV positive sailors are still deployable, yet those unvaxxed for a non deadly (and now mostly non-existent) disease are not, defies belief. Yet they are still pushing this BS. Just another example of the moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy in our military leadership.
Fox News
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Admiral William Lescher, who serves as the Navy's second-highest ranking uniformed officer, stated in a sworn declaration before the Supreme Court earlier this year that allowing unvaccinated SEALs will cause "immediate harm to the Navy" and "to the national security of the United States" and could be considered a "dereliction of duty."
Under deposition by the SEAL's legal team in June, however, Lescher admitted...
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he was "unaware" of any Navy SEAL combat missions that had been negatively affected by COVID-19, despite his earlier claim that the vaccine mandate was necessary for successful Navy operations.
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he was "unaware of any combat failure" due to COVID-19, and also unaware of specific examples of "COVID-19 making a medical evacuation harder" or of a time it "was contracted through a rebreathing device, or was contracted on a submarine."
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(he) confirmed the Navy's policy, which requires the "0.6% of service members with a religious objection [be vaccinated] because of the purported increased risk of severe cases," despite accepting the risk of severe COVID cases that occurs in 25% of the Navy due to sailors meeting the medical definition of obesity.
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that Navy policy permits HIV positive individuals to deploy at commander discretion and states that HIV status may not be the sole basis for deployment decisions, despite the risks to others on the deployment,"
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that COVID outbreaks continue on ships despite 100% vaccination rate and the Navy is now facing recruitment and retention issues and has been forced into "lowering" its standards.
This clown's testimony to the Supreme Court back in March contributed to many able and willing sailors with sincere convictions to be removed from their jobs as part of DOD's Vax harassment package to force them to comply. The admission that HIV positive sailors are still deployable, yet those unvaxxed for a non deadly (and now mostly non-existent) disease are not, defies belief. Yet they are still pushing this BS. Just another example of the moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy in our military leadership.
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Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:47 pm to Crimsonmarine
Did I read that right- 25% of the Navy is obese?
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:49 pm to Crimsonmarine
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despite accepting the risk of severe COVID cases that occurs in 25% of the Navy due to sailors meeting the medical definition of obesity.
We would get slaughtered in a major war. Jesus Christ.
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Just another example of the moral bankruptcy and hypocrisy in our military leadership.
Trump's biggest mistake was not firing every single officer promoted in the Obama administration and not firing every single administrator (usually high ranking officers, IIRC) from all of the service academies. The military needs a total cleansing.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:52 pm to VADawg
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We would get slaughtered in a major war. Jesus Christ
Calm down. It's the Navy; they mainly just have to ride around on a boat.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:55 pm to RougeDawg
Maverick is rustled by that statement.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:58 pm to Swoopin
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25% of the Navy is obese
Sounds about right in my experience. In their defense however, I think the U.S. is over 40% when it comes to obesity.
I deal with a lot of recruiters, and the current recruiting crisis isn't all due to wokeness and poor leadership. Alot of it has to do with our high school graduates being too fat, stupid, or both to join. God help us.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:01 pm to Swoopin
Fat floats.
I’m less worried about fat seamen than I am about fat marines or grunts.
I’m less worried about fat seamen than I am about fat marines or grunts.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:02 pm to Crimsonmarine
“No, the ARMY said I was too fat.
The POLICE said I was too dumb.” - Homer Simpson
The POLICE said I was too dumb.” - Homer Simpson
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:10 pm to Crimsonmarine
The amount of political correctness and arse kissing required to make general/flag officer in the 21st Century is a threat to national security.
#Bringbackmeritocracy
#Bringbackmeritocracy
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:14 pm to Swoopin
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Did I read that right- 25% of the Navy is obese?
True story (funny story), I went to a joint school, call it 30 years ago. It was a school typically attended by young troops right out of their various IET qualification programs, so while the average age was about 24 or 25, the mean was about 22.
Anyway, these were young troops, generally fit and in the prime or even "pre" prime of their lives when they tend to be the thinnest. Walking around this facility after hours, on a weekend, etc., when you would see them in civvies, the Army and Air Force kids were indistinguishable. Reasonably thin, young kids you could see on any college campus. Could be a whole mixed gaggle of them - absolutely indistinguishable.
The Marines weren't fooling anyone with the haircut. Immediately identifiable.
And the Navy were all fat.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:28 pm to Swoopin
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Did I read that right- 25% of the Navy is obese
Fat helps with buoyancy
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:32 pm to Crimsonmarine
William Lescher is a GD liar.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:34 pm to Crimsonmarine
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HIV status may not be the sole basis for deployment decisions,
Clown
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World
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:41 pm to Crimsonmarine
quote:It's weird how possible exposure to a (mostly) harmless (in the healthy) is "immediate harm"... but kicking out thousands of sailors that refuesed the shot... not a problem.
Vice CNO testified that unvaxxed SEALs would cause Navy "immediate harm"
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:44 pm to Taxing Authority
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It's weird how possible exposure to a (mostly) harmless (in the healthy) is "immediate harm"... but kicking out thousands of sailors that refuesed the shot... not a problem.
HIV not a problem, chopadictomy not a problem, lower standards for females not a problem, pregnancy not a problem, and the list goes on and on and on.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:17 pm to Flats
Damn shame and outrage what has happened to my Navy and our military branches.
Disgraceful.
Disgraceful.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:21 pm to Swoopin
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25% of the Navy is obese
Posted on 8/26/22 at 4:32 am to Swoopin
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Did I read that right- 25% of the Navy is obese?
Have you seen service members lately? I am surprised it is not higher.
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:35 am to Swoopin
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Did I read that right- 25% of the Navy is obese?
The "medical" definition of obese accounts for virtually NO muscle mass.
I am almost 60, about 5'10", and supposed to weight around 170. I weigh 190, work out four-days-a-week with running 3 miles and lifting with a below 40 resting heart rate. I have a little more in the middle than I would want, but I am not borderline obese (or really overweight).
Posted on 8/26/22 at 6:41 am to navy
Damn shame and outage what has happened to my Navy and our military branches.
Amen! I am old enough to remember when there were standards required for enlistment that all branches of the military adhered to strictly. I think our national defense capability was much greater then.
Amen! I am old enough to remember when there were standards required for enlistment that all branches of the military adhered to strictly. I think our national defense capability was much greater then.
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