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Federal Taxes
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:22 pm
Can a state just refuse to submit federal taxes to the US government? What would be the outcome if they didn’t send the feds their check?
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:23 pm to Simplemaaan
Could be wrong...dont think thats how that works.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:24 pm to Simplemaaan
You don't pay federal income taxes to the state government with state government just acting as a pass-through to the federal government.
You pay federal income taxes directly to the federal government.
You pay state income taxes directly to the state government.
You pay federal income taxes directly to the federal government.
You pay state income taxes directly to the state government.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:26 pm to Big Gorilla
um ... jr high is <-- that way
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:27 pm to Simplemaaan
We get back more than we send in so it would be stupid for us to do so.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:29 pm to Simplemaaan
In this fantasy scenario, the irs would just issue tax liens and penalties on all of the state's residents and the state government wouldn't be very popular with their voters at that point.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:31 pm to Simplemaaan
Doesn’t work like that.
Employers withhold to the Feds. States do their own withholding.
Any tax protest in this country would involve taxpayers taking as many exemptions as possible in order to reduce withholding significantly and then paying a lump sum in April each year.
Employers withhold to the Feds. States do their own withholding.
Any tax protest in this country would involve taxpayers taking as many exemptions as possible in order to reduce withholding significantly and then paying a lump sum in April each year.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:32 pm to teke184
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then paying a lump sum in April each year.
OR better yet, not paying a lump sum at all...
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:37 pm to The Maj
That would be the goal but I’m trying to be as realistic as possible which is to starve the beast as much as possible throughout the year.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:38 pm to teke184
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starve the beast as much as possible throughout the year.
Starve it at the end as well... The problem is very few would be willing to do it...
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:42 pm to The Maj
So, other than claiming married and 99, the feds will get theirs?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:50 pm to Diamondawg
quote:yep, Louisiana big time..
We get back more than we send in so it would be stupid for us to do so.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:52 pm to The Maj
Given how poorly the government handles cash flow, I think that starving them until April 15 would be enough to make a point without putting yourself into legal jeopardy.
People also being keenly aware of how much tax they are paying would be another issue for the government. It is invisible now as a withholding on your paycheck. Less so if you have to write a quarterly or annual check.
People also being keenly aware of how much tax they are paying would be another issue for the government. It is invisible now as a withholding on your paycheck. Less so if you have to write a quarterly or annual check.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:53 pm to Simplemaaan
Individual taxpayers file and pay income tax. The government insures compliance by wage earners by having taxes withheld from checks and then deposited. People with 1099 income pay quarterly. The state is not involved.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:06 pm to teke184
They would just print more money to facilitate the delay in funds & then they would release the 87,000 Barney Fife troops into the neighborhoods.
And if there were a calculated decision to do that by a large % of the population, I’m sure they would pass something in Congress to penalize you for doing a lump sum at the end versus a pay as you go plan like most people do.
Either way, they pull the levers until they are no longer in power & we are just modern day slaves to the system.
And if there were a calculated decision to do that by a large % of the population, I’m sure they would pass something in Congress to penalize you for doing a lump sum at the end versus a pay as you go plan like most people do.
Either way, they pull the levers until they are no longer in power & we are just modern day slaves to the system.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:11 pm to Simplemaaan
If you want to get rid of income taxes, simply make it where every citizen has to cut a check to the fed and state governments every month.
It wouldn't take long before there would be a revolt. Having money withdrawn from your paycheck before you see the money in your bank account is way too easy to overlook the amount that is paid to governments.
It wouldn't take long before there would be a revolt. Having money withdrawn from your paycheck before you see the money in your bank account is way too easy to overlook the amount that is paid to governments.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:22 pm to Simplemaaan
quote:Cities and states ignore federal immigration law. They even help people evade capture for openly violating those laws.
Can a state just refuse to submit federal taxes to the US government?
I see no reason the same cannot be done for taxes.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:34 pm to Diamondawg
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We get back more than we send in so it would be stupid for us to do so.
The State of Mississippi is such a drain on our resources.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:44 pm to Tantal
quote:If someone would only take the Mississippi Delta off of our hands.
The State of Mississippi is such a drain on our resources.
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