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Deuce and Will Smith
Posted on 10/24/08 at 10:50 am
Posted on 10/24/08 at 10:50 am
I sure hope this isn't what I think it is.
There has been a “rash of positive tests under the steroid policy as a result of players taking water pills to lose weight," a highly-placed NFL source said.
The source told FOX 31’s Josina Anderson Friday morning that New Orleans Saints’ running back Deuce McAllister, and defensive end Will Smith were included in the web of positive tests.
“There are about six to ten overall positive tests. Three to four of them are from the Saints organization alone including McAllister and Smith.
The source told Anderson there were no Denver Broncos players that were a part of this group.
McAllister and Smith are in a group of players that have tested positive specifically for a diuretic known as Bumetanide. Some of the players in the group of six to ten tested positive for a different substance.
"Most of them tested positive for Bumetanide," said the league source. "The last few tested positive for another substance that works similarly.”
Experts at the Mayo Clinic describe Bumetanide as a drug belonging to a group of medicines called loop diuretics or “water pills.” Its uses include the treatment of fluid retention and swelling caused by medical conditions such as congestive heart failure, liver disease, and kidney disease.
However, the source told Anderson that Bumetanide has another use which makes it one of the NFL’s banned substances.
“[Bumetanide] can also mask the use of other drugs or steroids.”
Dr. Norman Smith, the lead physician at an internal medical practice in Maryland confirmed this assertion to Fox 31 Sports.
“Bumetanide makes you excrete a lot of salt and water. It dilutes the urine and makes it very difficult to test for illegal substances. There are some patients who use or abuse it where weight is critical,” Dr. Smith said.
Weight loss is the main reason the highly-placed league source identifies as to why this group of NFL players tested positive for this drug. “It seems to be clear that most of these players were doing it to cut weight.”
When the source was asked how they’re more confident these players used Bumetanide as a weight loss agent as opposed to a masking agent, the source replied, “I know that a few of these players have had weight issues.”
The source also suggested some of the players may not have known Bumetanide is on the NFL’s list of banned substances.
“I don’t think many of them are attempting to cheat, or even know it is on the list. We are talking big guys who have likely never seen a steroid in their life. My understanding of the steroid policy is that it was intended to catch cheaters or people using performance enhancing substances to gain a competitive edge. These guys don’t fall into that category,” said the source.
Regardless, all of the players in this group of positive tests, including McAllister and Smith, are subject to a suspension pending an appeal to the league. Under the NFL’s steroid policy, a player’s first positive test results in a four-game suspension.
Smith’s listed agent, Joel Segal, was not immediately available to comment. A representative for McAllister’s agent, Jim Steiner, said the agent would call back.
There has been a “rash of positive tests under the steroid policy as a result of players taking water pills to lose weight," a highly-placed NFL source said.
The source told FOX 31’s Josina Anderson Friday morning that New Orleans Saints’ running back Deuce McAllister, and defensive end Will Smith were included in the web of positive tests.
“There are about six to ten overall positive tests. Three to four of them are from the Saints organization alone including McAllister and Smith.
The source told Anderson there were no Denver Broncos players that were a part of this group.
McAllister and Smith are in a group of players that have tested positive specifically for a diuretic known as Bumetanide. Some of the players in the group of six to ten tested positive for a different substance.
"Most of them tested positive for Bumetanide," said the league source. "The last few tested positive for another substance that works similarly.”
Experts at the Mayo Clinic describe Bumetanide as a drug belonging to a group of medicines called loop diuretics or “water pills.” Its uses include the treatment of fluid retention and swelling caused by medical conditions such as congestive heart failure, liver disease, and kidney disease.
However, the source told Anderson that Bumetanide has another use which makes it one of the NFL’s banned substances.
“[Bumetanide] can also mask the use of other drugs or steroids.”
Dr. Norman Smith, the lead physician at an internal medical practice in Maryland confirmed this assertion to Fox 31 Sports.
“Bumetanide makes you excrete a lot of salt and water. It dilutes the urine and makes it very difficult to test for illegal substances. There are some patients who use or abuse it where weight is critical,” Dr. Smith said.
Weight loss is the main reason the highly-placed league source identifies as to why this group of NFL players tested positive for this drug. “It seems to be clear that most of these players were doing it to cut weight.”
When the source was asked how they’re more confident these players used Bumetanide as a weight loss agent as opposed to a masking agent, the source replied, “I know that a few of these players have had weight issues.”
The source also suggested some of the players may not have known Bumetanide is on the NFL’s list of banned substances.
“I don’t think many of them are attempting to cheat, or even know it is on the list. We are talking big guys who have likely never seen a steroid in their life. My understanding of the steroid policy is that it was intended to catch cheaters or people using performance enhancing substances to gain a competitive edge. These guys don’t fall into that category,” said the source.
Regardless, all of the players in this group of positive tests, including McAllister and Smith, are subject to a suspension pending an appeal to the league. Under the NFL’s steroid policy, a player’s first positive test results in a four-game suspension.
Smith’s listed agent, Joel Segal, was not immediately available to comment. A representative for McAllister’s agent, Jim Steiner, said the agent would call back.
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:04 am to Mouth
Just read it on SR. If it's true then
. we're done. What else can possibly happen to a team?
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:07 am to TigerColonel
Has either of them tested positive for steroids before?
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:10 am to TigerColonel
Well Deuce has been trying to keep weight off since the surgery, and Smith is looking a little fat these days.
I'm not convicting Deuce of anything!
No, and like the article said, all 10 players from around the league who tested positive for the "water pills" have weight issues and have probably never seen a steroid a day in there life.
I'm not convicting Deuce of anything!
quote:
Has either of them tested positive for steroids before?
No, and like the article said, all 10 players from around the league who tested positive for the "water pills" have weight issues and have probably never seen a steroid a day in there life.
This post was edited on 10/24/08 at 11:12 am
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:11 am to Mouth
What link did you get this from?
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:36 am to Mouth
Just heard it on espn. They said 10-15 involved 
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:39 am to Uncle JackD
Well, at least a hurricane did not come in and wipe out the town in which the Saints play and force them to not play one home game in their home stadium.
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:42 am to TigerColonel
WOW!!! this is pretty shitty news!
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:43 am to LSUfan4444
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:51 am to danfraz
I'm sure Deuce has an HGH prescription
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:54 am to Towelie
regardless if they were trying to mask steroid use or not, this is a banned substance and they could still face a suspension 
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:55 am to Mouth
quote:
they could still face a suspension
they WILL be suspended you mean correct?
Posted on 10/24/08 at 11:59 am to danfraz
Will Smith did go to Ohio State and they hand out roids like halloween candy there.
Posted on 10/24/08 at 12:04 pm to hendersonshands
why are deuce and will the only players getting name dropped? thats fricked up.
Posted on 10/24/08 at 12:06 pm to Maximus
Well good thing we had 4 running backs cuz now we got two for the immediate future...Thomas and Stecker...throw in the possibility of Shockey never shaking the lingering injury, the verdict still being out on whether Colston is healthy enough to make him an impact right now and you have a crappy offense....defend them all you want but they are very average to below average in every skill position but quarterback for the next few weeks.
Posted on 10/24/08 at 12:06 pm to Mouth
The NFL suspends the player who has been using steroids before it is made public that they indeed took the substance. Take Nesbit, nobody knew anything until the NFL came out and suspended him for it. The fact that the NFL hasn't suspended Deuce and Smith for this already may mean they won't be punished at all. I don't recall any case where a player has been accused before actually being suspended.
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