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re: Update: (kids involved) Livingston Strikes Again - Video Voyeurism Arrest
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:08 am to fr33manator
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:08 am to fr33manator
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The way it’s worded is kind of confusing.
You can't secretly record people while they shower or shite! How is that confusing? Even in your own house.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:09 am to fr33manator
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This seems like a terribly written law. It has to depend on context, right? Otherwise you’d have to notify thieves they were being filmed or they’d have a case against you
No, it isn't about thieves or home security. It's about secret cameras in the bathroom or a guest bedroom. It's not a new idea and its isn't confusing.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:12 am to fr33manator
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and then an underage thief breaks in and takes off all their clothes in your bedroom, and screws your pillow or something, you couldn’t possibly be arrested for that could you?
Your scenarios are getting way more specific.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:25 am to fr33manator
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This seems like a terribly written law. It has to depend on context, right?
Probably boils down to consent. Certain states allow it if one party is aware IIRC. Obv not LA.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:32 am to Shexter
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videos of her, her mother, their children
her? You coulda just snapped a few pics.
her mom? yuck, lock him up.
their children? Wow, once you check your little cam and see this as an unintended consequence you gotta clean up your perverted act. And if you dont, you should probably be shot.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:33 am to TBoy
quote:I really cant see what everyone doesnt understand. This wasnt on a kitchen or front door security cam. This was intended for capturing images in an area where everyone should be able to assume privacy.
It's about secret cameras in the bathroom or a guest bedroom. It's not a new idea and its isn't confusing.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:53 am to Shexter
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installed a secret camera that looks like a cell phone charger
This wasn't an "Oops, didn't know they couldn't be in the bathroom". He knew exactly what he was doing.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:37 pm to tigerfoot
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This was intended for capturing images in an area where everyone should be able to assume privacy.
I’m not talking about this specific instance. I’m talking about the broader application. I’m asking if context is taken into account.
Obviously this dude is a shitbag. Bathroom cameras are an obvious No-no.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:40 pm to JodyPlauche
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You can't secretly record people while they shower or shite! How is that confusing? Even in your own house.
I’m obviously not talking about that Jody.
Btw, I was talking with some guys the other day and the topic of vigilante justice against pedos came up and your dad came up.
I told them the the story and they agreed he was a hero.
They laughed about what you wrote in my copy of the book too. We should get a beer sometime soon
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:25 pm to Shexter
Or how about another angle?! She knew it was there and as a scorned ex wife decided to do this. And she knew about it for years. She's had this information and so has her mother.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:28 pm to Shexter
Also, if she didn't know it was there and only found it on a drive....then how does she know what the charger looked like?!?!
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:34 pm to tigerfoot
How do you know? You don't. You're assuming. And considering that the charges do not contain children, it seems like the sensationalism from the media has exploded this to the point assumptions of an innocent man are being made. Also, there was no camera in a guest bathroom. The mother is a felon accused of larceny and did prison time. The "victim" has talked about this since January of 2021. He moved out in April. She turned this in in October following custody proceedings. Now so many people are affected and children have been taken out of caution for something that never occurred. She has a history of theft and battery that were not followed up on by the LPSO when they were made. So the same week she is to leave the home and was served with papers for a mental health evaluation, she and her mother sent threats and then he was arrested. How's that for your ridiculous article!?!
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:40 pm to Shexter
unfilteredwithkiran.com
Kiran Chawla actually reported it first, give her site the traffic instead of the local news that often reports on stories after Kiran reports it.
Kiran Chawla actually reported it first, give her site the traffic instead of the local news that often reports on stories after Kiran reports it.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:42 pm to Devastated
Well hello there. Welcome to the OT. Tell us more
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:54 pm to Devastated
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Or how about another angle?! She knew it was there and as a scorned ex wife decided to do this. And she knew about it for years. She's had this information and so has her mother.
Even if you told her and her mom, why did you place a camera in the restroom in the first place?
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:59 pm to Esquire
Maybe the mom is a convicted felon. Maybe they're only telling part of the truth. In fact, they are.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:03 pm to fr33manator
It seems like the only information y'all are interested are ridiculous charges that have ruined lives. Not just his. This hasn't ruined her life, she gets to stay in his house rent free. Awfully convenient the same week she needs to move out with no place to live, all of this occurs.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:06 pm to Devastated
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Maybe the mom is a convicted felon. Maybe they're only telling part of the truth. In fact, they are.
This is why I love the OT.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:12 pm to Shexter
She knew exactly what SHE was doing
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