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re: Trump to not oppose warrant and inventory list release

Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:41 pm to
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Maybe he’s trying less to prove his innocence and more to prove their guilt.

maybe... just saying it's very outside the norm of how it usually goes down with allegations and Trump... but hey, the good news is one way or the other, we'll all find out tomorrow around 3pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:41 pm to
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Whatever the docs end up being, if anything of substance, will be called planted evidence by most of this board.


So brave.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:42 pm to
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frick you

your wife already does...

quote:

hole you came out of.

ah, but you should see the hole i come in...
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:46 pm to
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b/c they'd have to give up their human source who tipped them of


That’s BS. They can redact the person like they have done a million times before.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:47 pm to
If only the FBI wasn’t already caught red handed fabricating evidence against Trump maybe just maybe more people would find it hard to believe they were capable of doing it again.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:48 pm to
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That’s BS. They can redact the person like they have done a million times before.


hey, look, i want ALL of it disclosed, so we can weed out the bullshite, whether it's Trump or the FBI... so i'm all for the affidavit being released too, but they've already said that's not being unsealed, so we'll have to take what we can get to see who's lying about what in this situation...
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:49 pm to
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they currently have the EXACT same thing the DOJ is wanting to unseal tommorrow


This is a huge assumption
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:51 pm to
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If only the FBI wasn’t already caught red handed fabricating evidence against Trump maybe just maybe more people would find it hard to believe they were capable of doing it again.

so just asking, not flaming, but seriously just asking, do you already have your mind made up that there's nothing that could possibly come out of tomorrow that would change your opinion of Trump, even if it is found that he had documents about nuclear weapons that could pose a threat to national security/American safety?
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 11:53 pm
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:52 pm to
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This is a huge assumption

we'll find out tomorrow... but honestly, what would be your response if it is in fact the exact same?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:57 pm to
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do you already have your mind made up that there's nothing that could possibly come out of tomorrow that would change your opinion of Trump


I’ll answer on behalf of 90% of this board.

Yes.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:57 pm to
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Garland saying we'll show you what we got


Lol. Ur such a tool.

The govt started this and it’s up to them to show why.
They won’t. They will show a generic warrant and receipt list that really won’t tell us anything at all.

Trump has zero reason to do anything now. The world is asking Garland why they did this.
Posted by PaperTiger
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:00 am to
That's why you make them produce it first.

Trump's team can't change a warrant. FBI can though. Make the DoJ release it first, that way if it didn't match up you can say "well this is the warrant we have, we weren't served the one they released"


It keeps everybody honest
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:01 am to
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That's why you make them produce it first.

Trump's team can't change a warrant. FBI can though. Make the DoJ release it first, that way if it didn't match up you can say "well this is the warrant we have, we weren't served the one they released"

It keeps everybody honest


It’s pretty easy to tell who’s never played poker on this board.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:04 am to
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That's why you make them produce it first.

Trump's team can't change a warrant. FBI can though. Make the DoJ release it first, that way if it didn't match up you can say "well this is the warrant we have, we weren't served the one they released"


It keeps everybody honest


see, i see it the reverse... release it first, that way if it is different, you can say "see, they altered it, etc."
releasing it 2nd, if in fact it does come out the exact same, makes you look guilty as frick
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:09 am to
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so we'll have to take what we can get to see who's lying about what in this situation...


You are going to be terribly disappointed tomorrow.

The warrant and the receipt list, if released, will not have enough specifics to mean anything. People will speculate, convict him, support him, gnash their teeth, etc.., but they aren’t going to get anything close to a concrete answer.
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:12 am to
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Ur

unless you are a 15 year old girl, why are you using this? you really can't type "you're"? be an adult...

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The govt started this

did they? they put those documents in MAL?

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it’s up to them to show why.

hence the request to unseal the warrant and receipt list...

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They will show a generic warrant and receipt list that really won’t tell us anything at all.

if it's generic and not all that identifiable or informative, it makes all the sense in the world for Trump to try to get ahead of this and put it out there to say "see, there's nothing to this"... but he hasn't yet, and that's pretty peculiar...

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Trump has zero reason to do anything now.
does he? shite, if i was being accused of something as serious as harboring nuclear information that i shouldn't have, and i was completely innocent, i'd be proclaiming that, not bottling up and letting people wonder, which only makes me look like i'm hiding something or from something...

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The world is asking Garland why they did this.
he's trying to give them an answer, hence the tepid press conference today and the unprecedented unsealing request....
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:13 am to


If Trump shows his first, and it's different from the one the judge signed off on, only one person will truly know that... The judge. Later say it's two different warrants or so affidavits or whatever, you think the judge is going to hold a press conference and say that the FBI gave him a different document to sign and they did so illegally? I highly doubt it.

I couldn't imagine being in a courtroom, being accused of a crime, and me have to present my case to the judge before the accuser did. That's asinine



Posted by Suck Out West
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:14 am to
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Whatever the docs end up being, if anything of substance, will be called planted evidence by most of this board.


Hard to blame anyone for taking that stance after the behavior of the FBI and DOJ leadership over recent years.

And you will automatically believe anything the FBI claims as long as it incriminates Trump.

This is the same FBI that intentionally mislead judges to obtain FISA warrants and also claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian misinformation.

In fact, this is now the 4th straight national election cycle in which the FBI has put it's foot on the scale. 2016 with Hillary's emails. 2018 with the Russia hoax. 2020 with Hunter's lap top. And now this.

But the FBI would never ever ever plant evidence to frame Trump.

Are you really this gullible? You really think the leadership at the DOJ and FBI are straight down the middle and honestly applying the law devoid of political affiliation? I have a bridge to sell you.
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:15 am to
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You are going to be terribly disappointed tomorrow.

nah, b/c i know, like you do, it's not going to have ALL the identifiable features everyone is looking for, like the affidavit would have... but i do want to at least see if the shite that the Trump Team has had for the entire week before this matches up to what it unsealed tomorrow... that would tell us a little bit about who's trying to protect their interest the most, at least....

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The warrant and the receipt list, if released, will not have enough specifics to mean anything. People will speculate, convict him, support him, gnash their teeth, etc.., but they aren’t going to get anything close to a concrete answer.
agreed
Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:19 am to
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I couldn't imagine being in a courtroom, being accused of a crime, and me have to present my case to the judge before the accuser did. That's asinine


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