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Saudi Arabian mega project - never heard of this before this Bloomberg article -

Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:32 pm
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Neom, the Saudi crown prince’s urban megaproject, is supposed to have a ski resort, swim lanes for commuters, and “smart” everything. It’s going great—for the consultants.


By Vivian Nereim
July 14, 2022 at 4:00 PM EDT

One day last September, a curious email arrived in Chris Hables Gray’s inbox. An author and self-described anarchist, feminist, and revolutionary, Gray fits right into Santa Cruz, Calif., where he lives. He’s written extensively about genetic engineering and the inevitable rise of cyborgs, attending protests in between for causes such as Black Lives Matter.

While Gray had taken some consulting gigs over the years, he’d never received an offer like this one. The first shock was the money: significantly more than he’d earned from all but one of his books. The second was the task: researching the aesthetics of seminal works of science fiction such as Blade Runner. The biggest surprise, however, was the ultimate client: Mohammed bin Salman, the 36-year-old crown prince of Saudi Arabia.

MBS, as he’s known abroad, was in the early stages of one of the largest and most difficult construction projects in history, which involves turning an expanse of desert the size of Belgium into a high-tech city-region called Neom. Starting with a budget of $500 billion, MBS bills Neom as a showpiece that will transform Saudi Arabia’s economy and serve as a testbed for technologies that could revolutionize daily life. And as Gray’s proposed assignment suggested, the crown prince’s vision bears little resemblance to the cities of today. Intrigued, Gray took the job. “If I can be honest with how I see the world, I’ll pretty much put my work out to anyone,” he says.

Gray had signed on to a city-building exercise so ambitious that it verges on the fantastical. An internal Neom “style catalog” viewed by Bloomberg Businessweek includes elevators that somehow fly through the sky, an urban spaceport, and buildings shaped like a double helix, a falcon’s outstretched wings, and a flower in bloom. The chosen site in Saudi Arabia’s far northwest, stretching from the sun-scorched Red Sea coast into craggy mountain badlands, has summer temperatures over 100F and almost no fresh water. Yet, according to MBS and his advisers, it will soon be home to millions of people who’ll live in harmony with the environment, relying on desalination plants and a fully renewable electric grid. They’ll benefit from cutting-edge infrastructure and a regulatory system designed expressly to foster new ideas—as long as those ideas don’t include challenging the authority of MBS. There may even be booze. Neom appears to be one of the crown prince’s highest priorities, and the Saudi state is devoting immense resources to making it a reality.

Yet five years into its development, bringing Neom out of the realm of science fiction is proving a formidable challenge, even for a near-absolute ruler with access to a $620 billion sovereign wealth fund. According to more than 25 current and former employees interviewed for this story, as well as 2,700 pages of internal documents, the project has been plagued by setbacks, many stemming from the difficulty of implementing MBS’s grandiose, ever-changing ideas—and of telling a prince who’s overseen the imprisonment of many of his own family members that his desires can’t be met.

Posted by DoYouRealise
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Posted by JohnJuan
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 12:34 am to
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includes elevators that somehow fly through the sky

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Posted by mb6355
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:10 am to
Seems to not involve eating bugs and going back to the stone age so that is a big plus compared to the WEF and Klaus Schwab's groupies...
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:13 am to
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includes elevators that somehow fly through the sky


Airplanes and helicopters?
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 6:14 am
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:18 am to
I’ve got a good friend working logistics planning for the project. Saudi is trying to catch up to the UAE as a place for foreign business. They want to be an attractive place for people to visit and live… good luck!
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:22 am to
He will end up getting thrown off a roof or his head cut off
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:37 am to
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turning an expanse of desert the size of Belgium into a high-tech city-region

Where is the water going to come from?
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 6:38 am
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:41 am to
Cousin just spent two years in Middle East designing/PM various over the top projects. Made 15 years worth of money in two.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:49 am to
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Where is the water going to come from?


They say in the article: desalinization plants.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:52 am to
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Where is the water going to come from?


According to the article, desalination plants.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:59 am to
They have the most desal plants of any country in the world

I'd imagine they'll have to dramatically increase that infrastructure to support this project
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:00 am to
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They say in the article: desalinization plants.

Doh...missed it.

I guess money really is no object.
Posted by squid_hunt
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:22 am to
Neom is a pretty cool concept. It's also supposed to have a bridge across the Red Sea into Egypt.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:39 am to
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Where is the water going to come from?


They're going to use Brawndo because it's got electrolytes.

Water is for the toilets.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:12 am to
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Seems to not involve eating bugs and going back to the stone age so that is a big plus compared to the WEF and Klaus Schwab's groupies...
sounds to me like it fits in to the “own nothing and be happy” plan perfectly

do you really think they’ll give just anyone access to their flying elevators
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:17 am to
Neom is what happens when you’re governed by an absolute dictator who has access to oil wealth and is a psychopath. It’s a fairytale and no one will tell him otherwise.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:20 am to
Yeah, that bridge may be a bit too ambitious.

From what I understand, the biggest hurdle has been setting up the right infrastructure because MBS, etc keep changing the vision. Unlike Dubai where the Sheik said, I'm going to get British and German engineers and planners to work out the details, he's ( MBS) is involved in the minutae . ... mile long buildings.
Posted by squid_hunt
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:20 am to
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what happens when you’re governed by an absolute dictator who has access to oil wealth and is a psychopath.

That's also the definition of socialism, but let's not let that stop you.

Unlike the Dems, the Saudi government has real skin in the game and the arabs have been showing a spark for innovation recently. I like the engineering challenge even given the obvious political implications.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:20 am to
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Neom is what happens when you’re governed by an absolute dictator who has access to oil wealth and is a psychopath. It’s a fairytale and no one will tell him otherwise.


Yeah a less ambitious and realistic city space would make a lot more sense

From what is said in the article it looks like a pipe dream
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