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Josh Pate’s broadcast tonight all about A&M without saying it (NIL broken promises)
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:47 pm
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Says he’s been talking to coaches around the league and the biggest issue with NIL is certain schools promising things they can’t honor. Says some programs are promising things not rooted in reality which is causing recruits to commit without any emotional connection to the program.
He says “the quickest way to fracture locker room is with a few kids being promised a lot of money and them not getting it.” He goes on to say it’s already happening and word is already getting out among future signing classes. “It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.”
“There will be some high profile examples—it won’t take long for this to leak out. I’m telling you it’s coming in the next year or two—…of kids who get burned... That’s not going to go over well. …and when that happens they’ll leave and they’ll talk. And some of them are already doing it.”
Says he’s been talking to coaches around the league and the biggest issue with NIL is certain schools promising things they can’t honor. Says some programs are promising things not rooted in reality which is causing recruits to commit without any emotional connection to the program.
He says “the quickest way to fracture locker room is with a few kids being promised a lot of money and them not getting it.” He goes on to say it’s already happening and word is already getting out among future signing classes. “It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.”
“There will be some high profile examples—it won’t take long for this to leak out. I’m telling you it’s coming in the next year or two—…of kids who get burned... That’s not going to go over well. …and when that happens they’ll leave and they’ll talk. And some of them are already doing it.”
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:56 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Thought it was USC.
Could be a little, but A&M—who finished with the best recruiting class in history last year—currently still sits at 60. USC is at 17 right now. Also let’s not forget the Aggie coach Twitter meltdown last week.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:59 pm to jbraua
I was saying that based on this tweet.
I get your point about atm but seems like usc might be the first to be exposed.
I get your point about atm but seems like usc might be the first to be exposed.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:57 am to beauchristopher
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I hope they all transfer.
If this happens, lsu getting at least denver Harris and Jacoby matthews (I can dream right)
Posted on 7/18/22 at 5:45 am to BlueTiger23
I’d rather them not come here. They made their choice. They need to face the consequences.
We need people who WANT to be at LSU.
We need people who WANT to be at LSU.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 5:48 am to GEAUX5
They’re 17 year olds with family and agents in their ears. I’ll give them a pass.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:21 am to jbraua
When I started to hear Pate, 8&4 is who first came to mind, but I’m pretty sure it isn't them.
Josh clearly said (and repeated it multiple times) he was talking about schools that didn’t have a good NIL plan during the last cycle and hence they started making empty promises to not get left behind. 8&4 was ready for NIL out the gate and they have the money.
Josh clearly said (and repeated it multiple times) he was talking about schools that didn’t have a good NIL plan during the last cycle and hence they started making empty promises to not get left behind. 8&4 was ready for NIL out the gate and they have the money.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:24 am to GEAUX5
If they leave ATM and want to transfer to LSU, doesn't that mean they want to be at LSU?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:15 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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They’re 17 year olds with family and agents in their ears. I’ll give them a pass.
They chose $ over any "connection" to a school.
Why would that mindset change if they leave?
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:29 am to GEAUX5
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I’d rather them not come here. They made their choice. They need to face the consequences. We need people who WANT to be at LSU.
Dumb
Reminds of all the post not wanting a QB transfer from OSU Bc LSU had a full QB room of players that WANTED to be at LSU.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:30 am to bstew3006
And the shitshow begins...
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:35 am to jbraua
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Also let’s not forget the Aggie coach Twitter meltdown last week.
What happened here?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:37 am to jbraua
I'd be shocked if it was A&M, or any big schools for that matter. They have the money, but if they're promising on things they can't deliver because they didn't put the work in ahead of time, thats pretty bad.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:40 am to hall59tiger
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What happened here?
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Antonio Cromartie on Twitter:
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If you don’t want to be around the best and compete every single day. I don’t want you. Everything you get you have to Earn. Don’t want any any entitled as kids playing for me. I don’t give a frick. We are going to work and compete. No fricking handouts…come get how you live JIT.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:43 am to jbraua
Thanks for posting. That was a good listen.
Seems like there were a few highly ranked recruits that did not read the NIL contract fine print and were verbally overpromised. Hopefully going forward highly ranked recruits' handlers and/or parents will get smarter at reading contracts.
Also in Pate's podcast, it sounded like 247 is doing a rankings update today. That's going to be interesting.
Seems like there were a few highly ranked recruits that did not read the NIL contract fine print and were verbally overpromised. Hopefully going forward highly ranked recruits' handlers and/or parents will get smarter at reading contracts.
Also in Pate's podcast, it sounded like 247 is doing a rankings update today. That's going to be interesting.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:48 am to rmnldr
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Antonio Cromartie on Twitter:
That tweet...maybe the locker room is not so copesetic at 8&4.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:49 am to GEAUX5
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I’d rather them not come here. They made their choice. They need to face the consequences. We need people who WANT to be at LSU.
I see your point and would typically agree, but it could be really useful to have a former A&M player from last years cycle that is the host for a future recruit during his OV. We can have him host a player that is entertaining A&M, and he can negative recruit them for us talking about the BS, toxic locker room and broken promises. It’s a dirty business.
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