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re: With rising property valuations in Texas, do you wish the $10K SALT cap was higher?

Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:40 am to
Posted by itoldyaso
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:40 am to
Savannah, GA has the Stephens Day Bill. When you buy your property, the taxes remain at that purchase day level until sold again or renovations done. That is helpful, as older homeowners were being priced out of their neighborhoods. They did mess around with the millage rate, but no humongous increases in property taxes.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12742 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:43 am to
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If you tear down a house but leave one wall it is not considered new construction, but only a renovation which doesn’t reset the tax base.

This is happening left and right in my neighborhood. Most of the time they build a wall around the old wall.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:43 am to
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It does not reduce it dipshit, but caps the increase


How does it cap increases?

It's a set deduction from the appraisal.

Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 12:00 pm to
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No way the govt needs +10% annual increases in revenue


A responsible state? No.

Texas, with their huge unfunded state pension liability? Yes, unfortunately they do. Which is why I believe they may screw over their own native population by doing nothing about it in the next legislative session.
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:48 pm to
BS

You are paying ~2% of your homes value every year in taxes. That’s nearly everyone’s most expensive asset they own by a mile and you are paying 40% of the value of the home in 20 years in property tax if it doesn’t even go up which it does! Poof gone with barely any deductions tied to that that’s worth a frick.

Even if your income goes down guess what, your biggest asset is being taxed at the same rate.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71600 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:50 pm to
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The SALT cap was passed to punish taxpayers in blue states like California and New York who paid high amounts of state and local taxes. Guess it’s backfiring on Texas.


To punish, jeez. SALT Taxes should always be capped, or states will just take advantage of it and never pay federal taxes.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:45 pm to
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How does it cap increases


Texas has a 10% cap with homestead.

In the 18 years I have been in my house it has kicked in 6 times. First time reduced my appraised values $388. This year it reduced appraised value $58,857.

Texas has 10% increase cap on unlimited value.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:47 pm to
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You are paying ~2% of your homes value every year in taxes. That’s nearly everyone’s most expensive asset they own by a mile and you are paying 40% of the value of the home in 20 years in property tax if it doesn’t even go up which it does! Poof gone with barely any deductions tied to that that’s worth a frick.


What point are you trying to make?

Should we not pay taxes
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
38831 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:49 pm to
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Is Texas passing its own version of California's Prop 13 a possible solution?


I wish, but Texas doesn't allow private citizens to add propositions to the ballot. It takes 2/3rds of both houses of the state legislature to put props on the ballot.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15332 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:52 pm to
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I know people who are close to getting priced out of homes where they've lived for 10 years because the taxes are such a burden

This sucks. Luckily for me I got to the grandfathered age and I am locked in on property tax. But my damned house price had about doubled in appraisal and I only grandfathered recently. They raised my taxes while they could.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:11 pm to
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A responsible state? No.

Texas, with their huge unfunded state pension liability? Yes, unfortunately they do. Which is why I believe they may screw over their own native population by doing nothing about it in the next legislative session.


Property taxes don't go to the state.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:12 pm to
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You are paying ~2% of your homes value every year in taxes.


This is almost certainly untrue, especially if you lived in your home 5 or more years.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:24 pm to
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Property taxes don't go to the state.


Very valid point. My 4 entities for prop taxes are

County
City
ISD
Local community College

Rate is roughly 2%.

Local ISD (1.4%) has tried to increase tax rate past 2 years and have been shot down twice by voters. They do not have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10270 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:11 pm to
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Why should folks who pay less state taxes pay more federal taxes? There should be no deduction as it is, make the citizens of states with high local and state taxes feel the full burn of their voting and governing body's decisions.


This. Do away with it completely. In a perfect world they could lower federal taxes to compensate, but in reality they would just spend it more elsewhere.

The other thing that needs to be changed is how to “call out” stupidly low assessments. Homes that would sell in under 60 minutes for 50% more than assessed value.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 4:12 pm
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:26 pm to
No. Property taxes keep roads and schools being built. Also keeps out the riff raft.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2401 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:39 pm to
They’ll get it somewhere else if they don’t get it from property taxes. Fuel, sin, toll, you name it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:43 pm to
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Fuel, sin, toll, you name it.




None of these go to the same entity as property taxes.
Posted by LSU7096
Houston
Member since May 2004
2504 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:50 pm to
Equitable taxing. SALT makes all people pay their share of federal income taxes.

15% flat tax with no deduction is the way to go
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 6:20 pm to
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15% flat tax with no deduction is the way to go


Why are you for raising taxes?
Posted by DarthRebel
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21345 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:20 am to
Did we finally come to the conclusion Powerman was lying, yet again?

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