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re: GaTech to the Big Ten?

Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:06 pm to
Georgia Tech has always been mentioned as a potential target for the B1G, dating back to the 2012 rumor. Them being brought up again isn't too surprising, especially with research expenditures similar to Minnesota.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Georgia Tech has always been mentioned as a potential target for the B1G, dating back to the 2012 rumor. Them being brought up again isn't too surprising, especially with research expenditures similar to Minnesota.



If the B1G think they can compete with the SEC by adding GaTech, they are sadly missing the definition of a college football superconference.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:11 pm to
Tech has been a poverty athletic association for years and so many of their current problems can be traced back to a few key events (Paul Hewitt contract, half-assed stadium expansion followed by idiotic decisions regarding that project loan, etc).

We desperately need an influx in $$ and a BIG invite needs to be taken very seriously. If we are lucky enough to get a seat in the BIG then every avenue for getting out of the GOR needs to be evaluated.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
861 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:12 pm to
It will if they majority of members vote to disband because they have landing spots lined up.

Miami is being rumored to be first team to test it out.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Tech has been a poverty athletic association for years


That's why UCLA bolted.

UCLA is the flagship of the UC system.

But California is poor in the public sector (private it's rich) and UCLA has been bleeding money for years.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:24 pm to
Not sure what incentive NCST, Duke, Wake, Louisville, Pitt, BC, Syracuse, VT have to agree to break up the conference
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8759 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:25 pm to
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If the B1G think they can compete with the SEC by adding GaTech, they are sadly missing the definition of a college football superconference.


I was only pointing out that Georgia Tech is not a new name in B1G realignment, mostly due to a pretty large spend in research. Of course, I understand their AD brings little, but they have a sizable research arm and Endowment. Always attractive for B1G Chancellors/Presidents. The likely outcome, however, is Georgia Tech not becoming a member of the B1G, especially with a couple west coast schools and Notre Dame lurking. Also, you have to consider the B1G might want to see what they can do with Duke, Pitt, UNC and/or UVA before Georgia Tech.

ETA: There have been so many shitty rumors flying around since UCLA and USC, so just going to wait for some real announcements.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 4:12 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:45 pm to
The Ivy League would have even more but none of that matters on the athletic field
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:01 pm to
Tech’s athletics future is Tulane

I refuse to believe the B10 would even consider them
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 4:05 pm
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:22 pm to
2 of those teams (NCST/VT) are probably SEC bound depending on what happens with UNC/UVA.

Anyone North of DC is probably ending up in a new Big East.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
10196 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:37 pm to
Yep, I could see the schools getting left out of the latest round of expansion to combine with AAC schools. Oregon State, Washington State, and maybe Cal to MWC. Not sure what will happen to Stanford. Maybe PAC-12 combines with Big 12 and some schools don’t make the cut.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:56 pm to
Our leadership does not care about athletics and certainly not to the insane levels that you need to care these days. If they believe moving to the big10 somehow helps our academics I could see it happening otherwise I think it’s more likely we go down with the acc ship and end up in some weird spin off league that doesn’t care about athletics at all.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:02 pm to
Right, but if they stick together, they aren’t doing anything until 2036

They won’t all find soft landing spaces, so if you’re Wake Forest, why agree to dismantle the grant of rights? It’s an easy pay day for you.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:34 pm to
I don't understand doing it for ATL market- I mean GT may be 10th in the city in market share, but I am not even sure about that as there are so many alumni from many conferences. Notre Dame already concentrates on Georgia for recruiting, and does fairly well, but playing a few more games in ATL isn't really going to help northern schools recruit at this point with the NIL going to be the end all for that.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27550 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Doesn’t the ACC have a huge buyout because they just signed a 10 year deal?


Yes and yes.GT's athletic dept is also in horrible financial shape.

If and a big if here,they some jump they better hope the BIG let's em become fully vested members ASAP or some wealthy alumni step up...which they really haven't done in a couple of decades.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
14483 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:29 pm to
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some wealthy alumni step up...which they really haven't done in a couple of decades.
And it’s obviously only going to get worse with future booster classes. The student body today simply has no interest in athletics.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
34502 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:41 pm to
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Our leadership does not care about athletics


Your leaders sound dumb
Posted by Coastrashtiger
Member since Nov 2021
254 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:59 pm to
Lol when will these conferences stop with the whole media market size matters when it comes to college sports?

I can understand why sports media will not stop. But one of the most fascinating pieces was about how much Maryland and its giving alumni have hated the move to the Big Ten and their TV ratings have drastically dropped for a large majority of the games.

It will continue to happen, conferences that are not smart and simply go after "media markets" or have elitist attitudes about who they will take based off of things such as academics or politics namely the B1G and ACC will continue to suffer bigly.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
861 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:58 am to
You are correct. But look at it from another perspective.

Lets say for for arguments you have they ACC little 7 ( Wake, Pitt, BC, Syracuse, Louisville and maybe GT/Duke). These are schools that would face severe hardships should the ACC break up, because its not really clear what landing spot they would end up with(Duke/GT would probably be taken due to academics or basketball, but these move are all due to football).

Then you have the rest (VT, NCST, UNC,UVA, FSU, MIA, and Clemson) that have pretty solid footing on a landing spot in either the SEC/BiG should they want them.

Now if you're UNC for example, a school that had a decent all around showing in several sports (MBB, baseball, lacrosse, etc.)how much longer can you accept getting $40+ million less than the schools your compete against in the actual Big 2 conferences? The extra money Kentucky is getting will allow them to pay more for head coaches, assistant coaches, facilities, and recruits for basketball for instance which is a "peer" school to you in that so let. Just looks at the SEC, whose 3 doormats have all won CWS titles in the last 5 years.

If the rumors of $300 million in Exit fees to leave the ACC are true then ACC realignment will be paused. But every day, month, year closer to 2036 lowers that figure. And at some point AD's and Presidents are going to want the financial windfall from the Big 2 and they will bolt, regardless of whatever token resistance Wake or BC put up.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4318 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:38 am to
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UCLA traveling from cali to fricking new jersey to play rutgers in a conference game on Tuesday night is a logistical head scratcher. The game will be in the afternoon west coast time so they're going to obviously miss all tuesday classes anjd potentially monday/wednesday as well. And for what purpose? So the league can make more money?


Hopefully it doesn't negatively impact the big 10's academic glory.
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