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Act of Donation/gift of Home to child

Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
565 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:07 pm
My mother and I are wanting to get her major assets in order and to ensure if she would end up in a nursing home they would not have access to the home or sale proceeds. Can the home be gifted to a child without too large of a tax hit on either side?
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:13 pm to
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to ensure if she would end up in a nursing home they would not have access to the home or sale proceeds.


Why would the nursing home have a right to those assets?
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1554 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:30 pm to
You really need to talk to an attorney who specializes in estate planning. There are very complicated rules around Medicare and nursing homes and putting assets in others names.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3767 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:22 pm to
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You really need to talk to an attorney who specializes in estate planning. There are very complicated rules around Medicare and nursing homes and putting assets in others names.


This.

Trusts and seasoning and all that jazz.

Call an attorney that specializes.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:28 pm to
Everyone hates government fraud until they have to pay for a nursing home, then they’re totally cool with Medicaid fraud.

Hopefully you’re able to work around it without running afoul of the law. Speak to an attorney.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:29 pm to
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Why would the nursing home have a right to those assets?


Nursing home wouldn’t, but Medicarid can make a claim on a home, liquid assets, etc.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4502 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 1:23 am to
Open a trust. However, Medicare will get access to all assets the person had within the last five years
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The only way they don’t is if they have a living spouse. The spouse will get to keep everything
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 1:24 am
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17713 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:54 am to
Would you really put your mother in a welfare type nursing home while you enjoy the fruits of her lifelong labor?

You don’t think a nursing home deserves to get paid to care for elderly people that need the care?
Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
565 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:14 am to
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Would you really put your mother in a welfare type nursing home while you enjoy the fruits of her lifelong labor?


This isn’t the OT
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16640 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:51 am to
It is not that simple. First of all there is a five year waiting period before the government will recognize that the asset has does not belong to your mother.

It is not so much of a tax problem. A gift tax return would have to be filed, but that does not mean that taxes are owed because of the high threshold for estate taxes.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23920 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:35 am to
You'd have to wait 5 years before putting her in a nursing home if you want to avoid the Medicaid look back rule.

Medicaid Planning
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20903 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:17 am to
There is a big Medicaid exemption for the family home, so she may not need to donate it to qualify. But the state could go after the house after she died to seek reimbursement.

If mom gives away all her assets, then wants Medicaid within the 5 year look-back period that follows, those assets will count against her. She could be in a situation where she is truly poor because she gave you all her assets, but she does not qualify for Medicaid. You may have to pay full freight for her if she needs a nursing home.

This is not an area for amateurs. There are too many ways to screw up. Consult a lawyer who specializes in elder law.
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