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Act of Donation/gift of Home to child
Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:07 pm
My mother and I are wanting to get her major assets in order and to ensure if she would end up in a nursing home they would not have access to the home or sale proceeds. Can the home be gifted to a child without too large of a tax hit on either side?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:13 pm to LSUOFFSHORE
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to ensure if she would end up in a nursing home they would not have access to the home or sale proceeds.
Why would the nursing home have a right to those assets?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 5:30 pm to LSUOFFSHORE
You really need to talk to an attorney who specializes in estate planning. There are very complicated rules around Medicare and nursing homes and putting assets in others names.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:22 pm to TigerAlum1982
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You really need to talk to an attorney who specializes in estate planning. There are very complicated rules around Medicare and nursing homes and putting assets in others names.
This.
Trusts and seasoning and all that jazz.
Call an attorney that specializes.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:28 pm to LSUOFFSHORE
Everyone hates government fraud until they have to pay for a nursing home, then they’re totally cool with Medicaid fraud.
Hopefully you’re able to work around it without running afoul of the law. Speak to an attorney.
Hopefully you’re able to work around it without running afoul of the law. Speak to an attorney.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:29 pm to iAmBatman
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Why would the nursing home have a right to those assets?
Nursing home wouldn’t, but Medicarid can make a claim on a home, liquid assets, etc.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 7/2/22 at 1:23 am to slackster
Open a trust. However, Medicare will get access to all assets the person had within the last five years
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The only way they don’t is if they have a living spouse. The spouse will get to keep everything
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The only way they don’t is if they have a living spouse. The spouse will get to keep everything
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 1:24 am
Posted on 7/2/22 at 6:54 am to LSUOFFSHORE
Would you really put your mother in a welfare type nursing home while you enjoy the fruits of her lifelong labor?
You don’t think a nursing home deserves to get paid to care for elderly people that need the care?
You don’t think a nursing home deserves to get paid to care for elderly people that need the care?
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:14 am to REB BEER
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Would you really put your mother in a welfare type nursing home while you enjoy the fruits of her lifelong labor?
This isn’t the OT
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:51 am to LSUOFFSHORE
It is not that simple. First of all there is a five year waiting period before the government will recognize that the asset has does not belong to your mother.
It is not so much of a tax problem. A gift tax return would have to be filed, but that does not mean that taxes are owed because of the high threshold for estate taxes.
It is not so much of a tax problem. A gift tax return would have to be filed, but that does not mean that taxes are owed because of the high threshold for estate taxes.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:35 am to LSUOFFSHORE
You'd have to wait 5 years before putting her in a nursing home if you want to avoid the Medicaid look back rule.
Medicaid Planning
Medicaid Planning
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:17 am to LSUOFFSHORE
There is a big Medicaid exemption for the family home, so she may not need to donate it to qualify. But the state could go after the house after she died to seek reimbursement.
If mom gives away all her assets, then wants Medicaid within the 5 year look-back period that follows, those assets will count against her. She could be in a situation where she is truly poor because she gave you all her assets, but she does not qualify for Medicaid. You may have to pay full freight for her if she needs a nursing home.
This is not an area for amateurs. There are too many ways to screw up. Consult a lawyer who specializes in elder law.
If mom gives away all her assets, then wants Medicaid within the 5 year look-back period that follows, those assets will count against her. She could be in a situation where she is truly poor because she gave you all her assets, but she does not qualify for Medicaid. You may have to pay full freight for her if she needs a nursing home.
This is not an area for amateurs. There are too many ways to screw up. Consult a lawyer who specializes in elder law.
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