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re: I don't understand some states abortion laws not having an exception for rape and incest
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:05 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:05 pm to mmcgrath
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So they just got raped, and you are going to not only condemn them to 9 months of pregnancy with their rapists seed, but also direct them to a bunch of religious wackos to work with over those 9 months? How much punishment can one woman take?
Would you be okay then with a national law that banned abortion except for rape?
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:06 pm to SlickRickerz
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Listen, if the only way to have an abortion was to claim “rape”, they will claim it, regardless if it was or wasn’t. Their is no consequences for a women to file a false rape case on a man, if the only option for an abortion was rape, they will claim they were raped. Innocent men would constantly be fighting for their lives in a courtroom over false rape cases because a liberal wanted to terminate her pregnancy. The politicians knew this and that’s why they didn’t allow rape, they weren’t going to see men constantly get accused falsely.
This is the first logical argument I have ever heard on that subject. Have an upvote
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:08 pm to Gaggle
Indeed. Now if we can just get everyone else to realize that it's a bullshite argument...
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:09 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Just be against baby killing. Don't be for it, and definitely don't be for it because you can poke holes in someone on the internet's argument.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:09 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I was with you on page 3, brotha.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:10 pm to Gaggle
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Killing babies should not be on the table, and you think it's literally the only option
I do? That is news to me.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:11 pm to Gaggle
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Just be against baby killing.
I already am. I just don't agree with some of your definitions.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:11 pm to I-59 Tiger
This is where I part ways with my like-minded conservatives. A girl or woman should not be forced to birth her father’s, or uncle’s, or grandfather’s, or rapist’s child. It’s still murder, and if she chooses to abort, the father should be charged with it.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:12 pm to Gaggle
quote:Almost all abortions occur before there is anything resembling a child there. No brain function, nothing. These aren't 8 month fetuses we are talking about.
You're literally going to kill an innocent baby through crude evisceration. Who has never done anything and has a lifetime in front of them and can feel what you're doing. So, not that much punishment.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:13 pm to jchamil
quote:
It just says no exceptions will be considered until March 2023.
Even so. Why isn’t this already in there? Makes zero sense. I’m all on board what happened because I love seeing them melt. But there’s absolutely no reason someone should have to be forced to birth a child if they were forced to become pregnant.
Yea, you slip up and become pregnant because you were stupid and didn’t take precautions to avoid it, then you should be stuck with your consequences.
Rape, absolutely not.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:15 pm to TrussvilleTide
Yes. You posted, implying it was flawed to be for the nuclear family but against abortion. The main fallacy was other ways of promoting nuclear family didn't even occur to you. Of course another debate is whether abortion access over a long term really would increase nuclear families. It certainly didn't happen the first time.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:16 pm to mmcgrath
quote:But they aren't all of them, and they aren't only legal ones and abortionists don't in any way want them to be the only legal ones.
Almost all abortions occur before there is anything resembling a child there. No brain function, nothing. These aren't 8 month fetuses we are talking about.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:17 pm to AlxTgr
quote:Can you find numbers from this century? And maybe from a publication where 3 of 4 authors isn't a psychiatrist or psychologist?
Just some numbers in case anyone is curious.
ETA - preferably sometime after 2006. The numbers you quoted were published in 1996, but sourced from even older material.
quote:
The FDA first approved prescription emergency contraceptive pills in 1998. In 2006, the FDA approved the first over-the-counter (OTC) emergency contraception option for women 18 and older. In June 2013, the FDA approved the OTC product for use by women of all ages without a prescription.
https://www.womenshealth.gov/30-achievements/19
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:19 pm to Gaggle
quote:
You posted, implying it was flawed to be for the nuclear family but against abortion.
I said the nuclear family comment because people are claiming the bans won't increase poverty, then claim with the same breath that the death of nuclear family is killing the country when we all know many of these kids won't be growing up with a nuclear family. No mention of my position on abortion in that at all, so frick off with your I "implied" it and assuming I said something I didn't.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:19 pm to troyt37
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A girl or woman should not be forced to birth her father’s, or uncle’s, or grandfather’s, or rapist’s child. It’s still murder, and if she chooses to abort, the father should be charged with it.
That's not a bad idea to charge a rapist with murder if the rape results in a pregnancy that is aborted.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:20 pm to I-59 Tiger
I hate how states like Illinois and NY passed bills allowing abortion up until a due date
My word this is really sickening.
My word this is really sickening.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:20 pm to OGM
And according to people in this very thread they are requiring murder
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:22 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:You think the solution to illegal immigration and unwanted children (before or after birth) that may result in poverty is to kill them?
People are concerned with this, but not the increase in poverty and crime that is about to occur because of abortion bans?
You don't like immigration because its a bunch of poor people and criminals causing a drain on the country? Well buddy, now the call is coming from inside the house.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:22 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
Yes, I would. But I also wouldn't just leave them to the wolves. I'd direct them to pregnancy centers, run by Christian organizations, who deal in helping guide women through those very pregnancies. I'd let them know that I am there for them but would also remind them that it is a human life that grows inside of their body. If they wanted to keep the baby and raise it as their own, I'd be 100% in favor of it; if they wanted to put the baby up for adoption - same deal.
You are a crazy person.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:23 pm to TrussvilleTide
quote:Things don't happen like that. It's never that simple and that's what the left and lawmakers never understand. When abortion on demand was available people reacted. The nuclear family did not increase, poverty was not eradicated. Women now knew they could get pregnant and abort it. Now they might not be able to. They will make different decisions. That's how things actually work.
I said the nuclear family comment because people are claiming the bans won't increase poverty, then claim with the same breath that the death of nuclear family is killing the country when we all know many of these kids won't be growing up with a nuclear family. No mention of my position on abortion in that at all, so frick off with your I "implied" it and assuming I said something I didn't.
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