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re: The Army Has Separated 818 Soldiers for Refusing to Get Vaccinated

Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12747 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:55 pm to
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I would posit most or all of them had a raft of other vaccinations as they were processed for boot camp.

And? Religious beliefs change. The government doesn't get to question why you believe what you believe. They can only question the sincerity of your belief, and even then, good luck proving its not sincere.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105551 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:56 pm to
That machine broke down a long time ago.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21949 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Some people think the refusal to follow orders is somehow heroic. I disagree. Soldiers must follow orders.


So frick the constitution, just follow orders huh?
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6523 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:04 pm to
I know Plenty of active military that Are anti-VAX and hate Biden Joe got the vaccine and keep their job what does that tell you about the our country
Posted by tigerpoboy
Everything is rigged
Member since Nov 2021
223 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:04 pm to
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Soldiers must follow orders.


Since when? And don't tell me since Washington made his troops get inoculated, that's different. Troops should get to decide if and when they will follow any particular order. I mean, imagine a case where a Christian with sincerely held religious beliefs is ordered to kill. You expect them to do it?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22198 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:04 pm to
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The 11 exemptions probably were granted to Christian Scientists or others who also were exempted from their original vaccinations.



You would be wrong. A ton of people who had religious exemptions in place were not only denied a covid waiver, their previous waivers were removed.

The ONLY reason they allowed a handful of exemptions was so they could argue to a court that they did indeed consider them carefully. Which is bullshite, but bullshite that's impossible to claim with a 100% rejection rate, so they made it 99.99%.
Posted by Sulu
Member since Feb 2022
66 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:06 pm to
Then that Christian should be separated as well since they are obviously unable to serve the needs of the Army.

If we set precedent that soldiers can refuse vaccines, that would lead to absurd results and severely detract from the ability of our Army to fight and win the nation’s wars.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22198 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:08 pm to
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If we set precedent that soldiers can refuse vaccines,


Too late; religious exemptions to vaccines existed before covid. As do a bunch of other bullshite waivers for hair, beards, uniform, etc etc etc. If the military took a hard line on everything I could accept that this wasn't political, but they don't and it is.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35190 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:24 pm to
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I think it is a shame because that’s 818 careers ended prematurely for something that was highly politicized when it didn’t have to be.


Did you ignore the findings of the three medical doctors in informing your opinion?

Here they are again in case you missed them on the 1st page...

quote:

Myocardial infarction + 270%
Bells Palsy + 300%
Pulmonary Embolism + 470%
Cancer + 300% (38,000 to almost 120,000).

This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6285 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Our soldiers shouldn’t be lab rats


Do you know the kind of shots they get that the general public will never see?
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2254 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:55 pm to
Looks like DHHS recently exempted their vax enforcers from having to be vaxed. But the military is still forcing through.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 4:24 pm
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:56 pm to
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More than 4,450 religious exemptions have been requested. 11 have been approved.

Some people think the refusal to follow orders is somehow heroic. I disagree. Soldiers must follow orders.

“I got no problem with any man does what he’s told. But when he don’t, the machine breaks down. And when the machine breaks down, we break down”

-SFC Barnes


I was part of the letter writing campaign to fix the damn Anthrax shot.

It was fricked up, we wrote our congressmen/allied with advocates and got it fixed. It was fricking soldiers up.

Following orders is how you get to be the baddies, with skulls on helmets, etc.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 3:57 pm to
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Do you know the kind of shots they get that the general public will never see?


Yeah, I eventually had them all...
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:13 pm to
More available, trained men to fight with the Texas succession!
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22403 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 4:18 pm to
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Numbers as of 2 June. More than 4,450 religious exemptions have been requested. 11 have been approved. Some people think the refusal to follow orders is somehow heroic. I disagree. Soldiers must follow orders. “I got no problem with any man does what he’s told. But when he don’t, the machine breaks down. And when the machine breaks down, we break down”


At this point nobody wants to admit they were wrong. We also know natural immunity is as good as AT LEAST the J&J vaccine which was an acceptable to satisfy the order.

These soldiers were not at risk and we NOW KNOW the vaccine does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop spread.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18175 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:50 pm to
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More than 4,450 religious exemptions


THESE VACCINATIONS AREN’T WORKING!!!

Having said that, how many of those “religious exemptions” are actually religious exemptions and not just people that don’t want the shot because of the millions and millions of cases that prove this vax doesn’t work, and in some cases, there are life-threatening side effects? They are just grasping at the best possible excuse to not get the shot. I get it, but it’s as miserably transparent as “medical marijuana” is/was for the potheads, and saying you have to fly with your dog in the cabin because your dog is some emotional support animal. Bullsqueeze! It should offend those who are truly religious that folks are usurping faith in God instead of being honest.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22403 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:12 pm to
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how many of those “religious exemptions” are actually religious exemptions


People don’t realize how low the bar for religious exemption actual is. This is NOT a Catholic or Muslim or Jewish or Mormon debate. You can be an atheist and still apply for a religious exemption.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73556 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:14 pm to
Follow orders blindly you stupid fricker.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58408 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:14 pm to
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Soldiers must follow orders.


Like the Nazi soldiers operating the gas chambers?!
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26871 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:14 pm to
Vaccinated from monkey pox?
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