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re: Derrick Todd Lee killed Charlotte Murray Pace 20 years ago today (May 31)

Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:01 am to
Posted by nbern2022
Thibodaux
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:01 am to
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Where is it on 61?


It's between Hwy 964 and Hwy 10. Its on the left if you are going towards St. Francisville. Its the house right before you get to the Star Hill Trace Subdivision. The house is up a little on a hill right off Hwy 61. Driveway on left side.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150972 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:20 am to
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It's between Hwy 964 and Hwy 10. Its on the left if you are going towards St. Francisville. Its the house right before you get to the Star Hill Trace Subdivision. The house is up a little on a hill right off Hwy 61. Driveway on left side.

So not far from that cemetery where he attacked those kids with a machete. Wasn't that him?
Posted by nbern2022
Thibodaux
Member since May 2022
67 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:23 am to
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So not far from that cemetery where he attacked those kids with a machete. Wasn't that him?


Hmmm...not sure about that. Never heard about him attacking kids in a cemetery.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22822 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:28 am to
I know Derrick Todd Lee and Sean Vincent Gillis were active in Baton Rouge around the same time. Wasn't there a third serial killer? Anyone have and article that covers the serial killers in Baton Rouge at that time?
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:35 am to
LINK

Here is a basic summary. Gets way more in depth though once you start researching.
Posted by hometownhero89
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Member since Aug 2007
1601 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Not to rain on this memory but Pam was murdered in July and da Troop 205 scout summer camp was always in June. I remember being at home that weekend when it happened.



He's not wrong. It was just a campout. I remember that when we left for that trip, our lives weren't the same when we came back.

I still remember the massive trough of pepper spray for sale in sam's that summer too.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:43 am to
Much obliged
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:54 am to
They should have known he was a psycho by the way he holds those drumsticks

Posted by Required
Member since Mar 2022
251 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:17 am to
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The cops were insistent it was a white killer,


I'll say this, at the time of this occuring they had several articles come out in all of the big newspapers around South Louisiana. When they were claiming a white killer and in particular the only black woman he murdered near lafayette, they had a mold of his shoe on the ground(tracks he left)and identified the shoe(BK's) he tracked on the grounds near where this woman was dumped. I called the hotline to tell them immediately that this person was NOT white because of the kind of shoe they identified. At the time they identified the shoe as being a 8 or 10 yr old British Knight, a cheaper selling BK. I also was in a profession that seen hundreds if not thousands of athletic shoes on older teens for years and knew exactly what they(white or black) wore during that time. I can tell you that this cheaper shoe was owned by a person who was lower in classification(upper,middle and lower class). He bought a shoe that he knew from school times(10 to 15 yrs before) to be a cool shoe. And the fact that it was an older model so to speak told me he was around 30 or older and definitely NOT white. I told the hotline why I know these things based on what I see everyday and they found my info interesting. Say I stereotyped all you want. It wasn't like that back then and I was 150% correct when it came out.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158822 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:24 am to
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“Let’s see, I’ve put Derrick Todd Lee at a possible 17, Sean Gillis at least eight, Jeffrey Guillory at a possible 12 but it could be more, Ronald Dominique at 21, I believe, and the Jennings killer at nine or so. That’s 67 (victims) between five killers.”


I always thought Gillis was the one that was supposed to have a much higher number
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:29 am to
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I always thought Gillis was the one that was supposed to have a much higher number


I think they believe Gillis confessed to ALL of his while Guillory and DTL did not.
Posted by lsuaudio
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2004
745 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:06 am to
I was in grad school then. Scary times. I had friends who worked with Murray's roommate at the time. After she was killed the cops gave her roommate a dog from the K9 unit.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:12 am to
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I worked at the same place as Gina Green and was hired to be her assistant. My first job in college and here in BR. I had just started about a week before her death. A horrible horrible thing.


Earlier in her life she had worked at OLOL, after her murder a bunch of the people that had worked with her called the tip line about her former boss. He was a creepy guy, and was questioned a couple of times by the police.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6632 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:26 am to
I was in the process of moving out of Sharlo townhomes to South Brightside view the day it happened. My first load of stuff I came in and out of the neighborhood. When I went to pick up my second load of stuff, cops were swarming everywhere and crime scene tape was up with coroner outside. It was quite a surreal scene especially knowing what we know now.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
7704 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:26 am to
I was at LSU during DTL's killing spree. Once it was determined BR had a serial killer there was very little chance you were leaving a bar with a woman you didn't know before you got there, that's for sure.

I took a night class one semester, and women would always walk in pairs and if they heard footsteps behind they would either hurry along or stop and allow you to pass before walking again.

One time after studying at Middleton, I got back to the parking lot on Skip Bertman and there was a girl who's car wouldn't start. I offered to help, and she frantically told me her boyfriend was on the way and she'd prefer if I left. Well, she was the only other person in the parking lot so I decided I'd stay in my truck and make sure her boyfriend got there before leaving...after about 2 minutes she realized I was still there and started waving and yelling for me to please leave.

I drove to the parking lot across Nicholson and shut my lights off and watched her to make sure she got out of there ok, if she saw me I'm sure it freaked her out, but in my head better her be nervous than a victim...such a weird dichotomy to know that you're protecting someone but that they see you as a threat.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2526 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:33 am to
Didnt they match a telephone cord that was stolen from one victim, and used to tie up another. I seem to remember something about a telephone cord.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150972 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:54 am to
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Hmmm...not sure about that. Never heard about him attacking kids in a cemetery.

LINK

It was at that little cemetery just north of Mt. Pleasant and Old 61 I believe. Teenage couple was making out and a black man approached them, opened the door, and started slashing at them with a machete. And it was DTL.
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
186 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:16 pm to
Yes that was him who attacked those kids in the cemetery
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
186 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:20 pm to
He was in the band. His high school P.E. teacher was murdered , too. Coincidence???I think not
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15955 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:33 pm to
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I think the thought at the time was that he might have been to retarded to stand trial. Not that he was to retarded to have committed them. But they ruled he wasn't.

Right, but I was specifically referring to another poster's comment that he knew a lawyer who believed DTL was too stupid to even be a serial killer.

I'm a little surprised a lawyer would think that, but it's not an uncommon misconception.
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