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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?

Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:37 pm to
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Imagine for a minute 1950s americana society. Men wore hats. Women wore dresses. There were no other genders. Formality, and manners were expected. Personally responsibility was required. Bad behavior was shunned and punished.

Now look around today. Almost none of those things exist.

In the ordered society of the past… the mentally ill, the threatening people thst could not fit into civilized society stood out. They were obvious. They could be helped.

But in todays society, the people that cannot behave civilly… do not stand out. They can easily hide amongst those of us who can. Our culture enables them to do so. We don’t want to “judge” anyone. We mist be “tolerant” of everything—except white men and Christians.

Our culture is rotting. Character does matter.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3191 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:44 pm to
Harsh punishment is not the answer, they don’t care if they live or die. They are no different than suicide bombers.

More stupid gun laws are not the answer. Bootleg guns are as easy to get as weed. You can literally CNC a complete ar15 in your garage with less than a grand worth of equipment. Imagine the black market for these.

Besides, if he couldn’t get a gun he may well have mowed down a bunch of kids driving a truck. Guns are just one of many means to kill.

Better mental health? Maybe but would better therapy have stopped this guy from shooting?

In my opinion, these things happen where people are unarmed. The ability to shoot back severely hampers these things. That church shooting in Texas was different than this. Why? People shot back.

Israel learned this lesson back in the 70s and 80s. The teachers are trained to defend their children. It works.

Armed Israeli teachers.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6588 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:45 pm to
Should it be like this?
No.

Is it going to stop anytime soon?
No.

It’s ugly in a way that hard to describe. Our culture has a disease.
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:53 pm to
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Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7195 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:18 pm to
Eliminate easy targets aka gun free zones. In most cases, these people are weak people who go after the people who can’t defend themselves. Have security at your schools and churches.

In cases where there is no doubt who committed mass murder, most terroristic shootings, fast track the trial. Death penalty required upon conviction, the whole process should take no more than a couple months.

You could ban guns, but what happens when a guy goes in with illegal guns or a sword? How do you stop a guy running a bunch of people over with a car? Or how do you prevent terrorist style bombings? The problem is the criminal, not the tool they used to commit the crime.

Stop the nonsense of accepting mentally ill people as normal. If someone is weird it’s probably because they have issues. Friends and family should be trying to get them help, not just accepting them for who they are.

As a society there should be movement to limit negative influence on our youth. We shouldn’t expose our kids to violence. We sure shouldn’t let them act it out in realistic simulations, aka video games.

Strive to establish a society in which kids grow up in a two parent home. A society in which spending time with your kids is considered a parent’s number one priority. A person should be looked down upon by society if someone else is raising their kid.

I don’t think any one thing is a fix, but if all these things were done I do think it would have an positive impact on the frequency of these type of events.
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2388 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:21 pm to
Theres no solution. This shite will continue until our country breaks up and splits into 2 or 3 different nations. The only thing you can do at this point is protect yourself and your family.
Posted by Footballtimentn
Member since May 2022
409 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:21 pm to
I think we have to make the difficult decision to treat schools like the White House. A gate with armed guards and every bag is searched. I fully believe that would severely limit school shootings. It’s expensive and the optics of it aren’t great but if you believe your kids life is more important than it’s something that in my opinion is the best way to protect schools.

The more challenging thing is mass shootings in other places. I think harsher punishments, mental health reform and some aspects of gun reform (specifically around allowing someone that is known to be a threat have a gun).

Schools honestly is pretty easy it’s just a matter of saying screw the cost, we are going to save lives.

However, the one that always haunts me is the Vegas shooting. I just don’t know of anything that can be done to stop that as the guy had literally zero warning signs and no clear motivation. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do nothing though. I do believe mental health is a factor in most of these shootings so I would start there.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65068 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:26 pm to
First, stop with the gun bullshite. The problem isn’t guns. Hell, a century ago you could order a fully functional sub machine gun through the mail for $10. The problem is as a society we’ve cast aside the foundation upon which our society was built. We’ve cast aside reason, logic, and the natural order of the world as God intended. We’ve cast aside manhood and womanhood. We’ve cast aside the roles as fathers and mothers. We’ve cast aside any sense of community and country. We’ve cast aside maturity and a sense of responsibility past whatever suits our desires. We’ve replaced these with a selfish, childish, perverted and twisted narcissistic worship of self where our fellow humans are nothing but objects we either find useful to our wants or useless. We’re now embracing and even celebrating insanity and delusion. We spend our days in mindless self gratification of our most base animalistic desires. More sex, more depravity, more violence. It permeates every facet of media and entertainment.

Just look at society today. Look what we’ve become. How can we look at what we have become as society and be shocked when some insane 18 yr old decides it’s time for others to die? If anything it’s more surprising that it doesn’t happen more often.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:28 pm to
Get rid of public indoctrination schools
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18739 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:39 pm to
We could start treating the mentally ill instead of electing them
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55449 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:43 pm to
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?

-Enforce the gun laws that are already on the books.
-Demand that our politicians stop gutting mental healthcare in this country.
-Go back to embracing personal responsibility led and taught by the two parent family structure.
-Stop being soft on legitimate mental health issues. Telling everyone they are fine and the world is the problem is not working. The mentally ill need treatment, not coddling and excuse making.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23080 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:45 pm to
Hold people accountable for their actions and their actions alone. Stop trying to blame everything and everyone in society except for the evil that actually committed the crime.
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
3056 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:57 pm to
When you have a society whose moral standard is, it’s okay to kill unborn children in the womb, murders will continue.

Geraldo had the nerve to feign outrage at the killing of “innocent” children today, yet a couple of weeks ago he voiced his support for his daughter’s rights to choose!

No one should be surprised that young people can pull the trigger so easily, they live in a culture of death.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20743 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:59 pm to


Bring back the mafia and let them run the big cities like the early 1900’s. I’m pretty sure they’d take back the streets and neighborhoods in the big cities and the country folks can handle themselves if the riff raft starts moving from cities to rural America
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:37 pm to
These types of weirdos get no titties in their face. I guarantee you if these basement dwelling internet addicted dweebs would get some p@55y in their lives they would be less violent.

There was a part of the pickup artist that mentioned this - men who get attention from women are less likely to be violent.

Maybe there’s a way to get these losers laid? Tough ask…
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:46 pm to
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?


It literally always comes down to parenting.

Stop bringing politics into the household
Teach your kid right from wrong
Raise your kid with morals over ideals
Stop trying to be your kids friend..that's not your fricking job
Stop ignoring obvious red flags
If you see a major red flag, act on it. Your kid is a liability unless you act like a parent and get them help
Stop being a pussy and avoiding confrontation with your shithead teenager when he/she is being a shithead

Kid's don't pop out of the womb killers...stop failing them as parents
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12229 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:18 pm to
Open the fricking mental hospitals back up and commit the crazy people for life if needed... The damn government closed inpatient institutions for "fairness" issues and turned them lose on society... All the nuts are living under bridges and killing our kids. Lock the loonies up again. This is the issue...
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76807 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:35 pm to
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How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?


By taking guns away from suburban dads, obviously. Especially the big scary black guns.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 6:16 am to
Defund the FBI and the rest of the deep state. Problem solved.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 6:28 am
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