re: Sochan has to be the pick

I don’t think Mathurin fits the CJ replacement description at all. His game is nothing like CJ. There are several guys who fit the description but that’s not Mathurin.

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They have the thread listing all 8th picks going back decades, you're looking at a role playing starter at best

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that was and is such a dumb thing to look at.

How about we move down and draft at #9 and maybe we can get lucky and draft a Tracy McGrady, or Amare Staudamire, or Gordan Hayward, or Dirk Nowitzki, or Demar DeRozan.
Or maybe we can move down to 10th and draft a CJ, or Paul George, or Joe Johnson, or Paul Pierce.


Don't act like there aren't all star caliber players that are available at 8. they are there, and are every year. Do your homework and make a good draft pick for the best player available, not someone you are trying to fill a role on your team for.

the guys that have the highest chance to become allstars are more than likely going to be the SG/SF type players in that range.
You see so many busts in that 6-10 range b/c its usually teams that aren't any good making the pick. Tons of PF/C are taken on their big upside and they just rarely pan out when picked around there. I've shown that list before of the gigantic bust rate when picking that raw big in that range.
Lots of SG/SF are taken around those picks that never showed the ability to create for their own in college, so why would you expect them to be able to do that in the NBA? Those are going to be role players. If you can't be a shot creator in college, you sure as hell aren't going to be able to do it in the pros, and if you can't create your own shot, you're a role player, and even worst now, if you can't create your own shot AND you can't hit threes, then you aren't even a good role player.



The upside of Mathurin/Branham/Griffin is that if they never turn into allstars b/c of their shot creation, at worst they can be good shooters, and if they play good defense, then they will stay in the league for a long time. Mathurin and Branham have the upside of shot creation in their game, and could possibly get to that all-star level. Griffin doesn't really have that. If we want to assume that Johnny Davis will revert back to being better from 3, then he has that shot creation upside to all star level as well. Doesn't mean all 3 of them will be allstars, but you can see the difference in upside from Mathurin/Branham/Davis as compared to Griffin, and obviously Sochan. Think about what Sochan has to become to be allstar level good. He's going to be a role player at best more than likely.